Re: [indoexpat-uk] KTKLN - Ada yang punya recent experience?

Setuju dengan argumen Bapak...

Next time anak pulang, saya mau biarin anak saya maju duluan ke imigrasi...
:)




2012/3/29 Rusdy Hartungi <r_hartungi-/[email protected]>

> Orang Indonesia yang tinggal di Indonesia saja ada juga yang tidak biaa
> berbahasa Indonesia.
> Contohnya
> orang yang tinggal di desa terpencil, hanya bisa berbahasa daerah
>
>
> Suku suku terasing di Indonesia, dll.
>
>
> Karena mereka tdk bisa berbahasa
> Indonesia apa mereka bukan orang Indonesia ?.
> Definisi warga negara Indonesia tidak
> berarti hnay org yang bisa berbahasa Indonesoa saja...
>
> Sayangnya irg org kita memang masih suka buat aturan sediri. Ini harus
> dilawan.
>
> Minta saja dibuktikan di mana aturannya bahwa org Indonesia harus bisa
> berbahsa Indonesia.
> Brangkali maunya pake bahasa "Pak Dirman". Saya ingat Ini bahasa Indonesia
> yang sering dipakai jika kita merujuk  ke "Rupiah".
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo <[email protected]>
> To: hartungi <r_hartungi-/[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2012, 10:26
> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] KTKLN - Ada yang punya recent experience?
>
> Yg agak unik terakhir kami pulang ke Indonesia...
>
> Saat diperiksa imigrasi di Soetta...
>
> Ditanya apakah anak2x saya bisa bahasa Indonesia...
> Saya jawab, "Sedikit-sedikit sih bisa..."
> Petugas imigrasi bilang gini...
> "Kalau mereka travelling sendiri nanti kalau sudah besar, harus bisa jawab
> dalam bahasa Indonesia saat diperiksa imigrasi.
> Kalau tidak bisa, tidak boleh masuk Indonesia...."
>
> Apa ada dasar aturan kayak gini?
>
>
>
>
>
> 2012/3/29 <loverv2004-/[email protected]>
>
> > Saya malah tdk pernah dengar KTKLN ini.
> > Saya berkali2 pulang indo dg paspor terbitan imigrasi indonesia dan KBRI
> > london tidak pernah ditanyai ttg KTKLN. Istri dan anak juga selalu ikut
> > saya.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Salam,
> > Roddy
> > ------------------
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sheila <sheila_lestari-/[email protected]>
> > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:46:39
> > To: Roddy Soenjoto<loverv2004-/[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] KTKLN - Ada yang punya recent experience?
> >
> >  Halo ALL
> >
> > Hahahaha Mas Perry ! LOL
> >
> > Saya juga belum lama balik ga ada sedikit pun kok pertanyaan tentang itu.
> > Sepertinya peraturan ini juga belum fully functioned... tidak ada satu
> > petunjuk/ pengumuman/ brosur apapun di bandara mengenai hal ini.
> >
> > Sheila
> >
> >
> > On 28 Mar 2012, at 23:43, Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Itulah masalahnya.
> > >
> > > Saat ini "TKI" = unskilled workers. Jadi kalau tampang kita "skilled"
> > > ga akan dicegat, kalau dicegat minta KTKLN berarti tampang
> > > "unskilled"....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/3/28 Eddy Manurung <[email protected]>:
> > >> THanks Djonny atas sharing surat edaran tsb.
> > >> Dengan membaca surat edaran tstb. spertinya KTKLN diberlakukan utk
> TKI.
> > >> Mungkin definisi TKI ini yg harus jelas, apakah pekerja spt kita
> > termasuk
> > >> TKI yg dimaksud dalam surat itu?
> > >>
> > >> Salam,
> > >> EMan
> > >>
> > >> On 28 March 2012 17:30, DJONNY CHEN <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Kemaren pulang beberapa kali ke Jakarta, waktu balik ke sini nga
> > diminta
> > >>> bikin KTKLN juga :)
> > >>>
> > >>> Ada teman yg tinggal di singapore punya pengalaman bikin KTKLN, bukan
> > buat
> > >>> dia tapi buat pembantu rumah tangga dia dari Indonesia. Dia-nya
> > sendiri sih
> > >>> ngak perlu KTKLN. Bikinnya langsung di cengkareng airport, ada loket
> > khusus
> > >>> buat ini, datang bbrp jam lebih awal untuk bikin langsung di tempat.
> > Saya
> > >>> pernah di-forward sama dia surat edaran dari BPN2TKI (Badan Nasional
> > >>> Penempatan dan Perlindungan Tenaga Kerja Indonesia) ttg KTKLN, links
> > below:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> http://bnp2tki.go.id/prosedur-kerja-259/4669-surat-edaran-tentang-pelayanan-penerbitan-kartu-tenaga-kerja-luar-negeri-ktkln.html
> > >>>
> > >>> Mudah-mudahan berguna :)
> > >>>
> > >>> Salam,
> > >>> Djonny
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 2012/3/28 Dono Widiatmoko <[email protected]>
> > >>>
> > >>>> eh, pegawai KBRI juga (harusnya) perlu KTKLN juga nggak ya?
> > >>>> Dijamin pegawai kbri juga nggak punya hahahaa.......
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Saya juga sekeluarga ke Indonesia bulan Januari yang lalu nggak ada
> > >>>> apa-apa. Ngantri imigrasinya saja yang lama. Maklum ekonomi
> Indonesia
> > >>> maju
> > >>>> kali ya....
> > >>>>
> > >>>> :Dono
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 28 March 2012 16:55, Eddy Manurung <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> share ya...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 28 March 2012 16:54, Bagus Prakoso <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ok Pak, coba ntar tak telpon mereka.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Chris
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2012/3/28 Eddy Manurung <[email protected]>:
> > >>>>>>> Mas Chris,
> > >>>>>>> MUngkin kalau ditanyakan ke KBRI London bisa mengatasi kesimpang
> > >>>> siuran
> > >>>>>> dan
> > >>>>>>> kepastian ttg info KTKLN ini.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Salam,
> > >>>>>>> EMan
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 28 March 2012 16:32, Bagus Prakoso <[email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Nah itu dia Per ... namanya juga orang Indo ;)   Agak-agak labil
> > >>> kan
> > >>>>>>>> kadang-kadang.  Pas apes ditanya, mampus :)  Makanya ini
> jaga-jaga
> > >>>>>>>> kalau disuruh.  Pengen tau apa aja dokumennya.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Chris
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2012/3/28 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>:
> > >>>>>>>>> Emang perlu bikin :)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Saya balik dari Indonesia Sep 2011, Dita Des 2011, ga ada apa2
> > >>> tuh
> > >>>>>>>>> soal KTKLN....
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 2012/3/28 Bagus Prakoso <[email protected]>:
> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear friends,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> 3 minggu lagi saya pulang ke Indo.  Pertanyaan saya adalah,
> > >>>> apakah
> > >>>>>> ada
> > >>>>>>>>>> teman-teman yang punya pengalaman bikin KTKLN recently?
> > >>>>>>>>>> Kalau ada, itu dokumen apa saja yang diperlukan?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Terimakasih atas informasinya,
> > >>>>>>>>>> Chris
> > >>>>>>>>>>
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