Re: [indoexpat-uk] Maths pupils in England two years behind Chinese by age 16

Nahhh .. kalau secondary dan higher education is a different ball game :)
Sekolah SMA dan Universitas di Indonesia masih kalah jauh dengan
negara-negara Barat.
You have to go to the best SMA and the best Uni to even begin to compete
with these guys.

Mind you, it's not all bad though, when I was studying here, I managed to
stay on until the end while 'most' of my first year classmates were
systematically dropping off every year, until only about 20 students at the
end of course :)  I was quite proud actually :)  My only drawback was my
English, which despite was quite good, but still not good enough for
academic.  Luckily I didn't take a Literature course :)

So, there are a lot of things that Indonesian secondary and higher
education still need to learn to make it comparable to its US/European
counterpart.

Regards,
Chris

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:41 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Setuju sama Perry. Apa Math satu2nya yg terpenting?
>
> I felt the same when my kids started primary school. That they were way
> behind in Math.
>
> Tp stlh mrk di secondary school, pelajaran lain spt English (comparable to
> Bahasa Indonesia), History, Geography. Kemampuan analisa mrk dan metoda
> pembelajarannya jauh di atas sekolah2 di Indonesia.
>
> Jadi ya, kembali lagi. Apa math paling penting? Aku setuju dgn Perry, yg
> penting anak2 rounded, tidak hanya akademis tp multiple intelligencenya
> terasah.
>
> This is just my 2 cents to this discussion.
>
> Salam,
> Shinta
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:04:14
> To: Shinta Moeladi<[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] Maths pupils in England two years behind
> Chinese
>  by age 16
>
> So what are you going to do for your kid Chris, move to Jakarta? :-)
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
>  On 22 Feb 2013 09:58, "Bagus Prakoso" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I think it does. Given the same opportunity, I believe our kids can trump
> > these local kids any day.
> > My wife and I are not very keen on English primary education, and she is
> a
> > Primary school teacher :)  That says a lot.
> >
> > The only draw-back that our kids have is freedom.  Mind you, I've been
> out
> > of the country for too long, I'm probably the least qualified person to
> > analyse this.  But comparing to my own days of school, it's
> > just incomparable.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The question is: does it matter in real life/society?
> > >
> > > Maybe other kind of intelligence plays a greater role? The so called
> > > emotional intelligence.
> > >
> > > I suppose actually Indonesia also has greater spiritual intelligence -
> > > though reading Detik you do wonder sometimes...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Perry Ismangil
> > > me.ismangil.com
> > >  On 22 Feb 2013 08:03, "Okto Sriyono" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > True, even far behind Indonesia.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://m.guardian.co.uk/education/2013/feb/22/maths-pupils-england-behind-chinese
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