Re: DND Sharing of phone number

Android has a great app in India Against Spam (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deepakj.smspam) which sends an automated text message in the format mandated by TRAI to the operator with editable details of the spammer has called/texted you.

Unfortunately, as I’ve realised each operator handles this differently. I face spam calls / text messages on an old 98200XXXXX series number that’s as old as Indian mobile telephony. What makes it worse is that some of the spammers assume that anyone with a 98200XXXXX number must be well off because it was among the first mobile numbers in India. So calls are common, offering me property, from so called charitable organisations, etc. The number was originally with Vodafone but I ported out when porting was allowed and Idea’s idea of spam fighting is a sham. They quickly respond with a text message and e-mail saying the complaint has been registered. And then a few days later say the complaint has been closed because no fault has been found because of Idea! That message says I can appeal through the IVR but the IVR has no such option. I tried once and complained too, but nothing happens.

My other number is on Vodafone and there I once complained (receive very little spam there) and Vodafone sent me a message some days later saying the spammer’s number was disconnected.

Plain and simply put – the operators are in bed with the spammers. If they want to, the operators can end the spam menace.

And oh yes, now WhatsApp spam is a big problem.

Regards,

-Ivor

From: India-gii [mailto:india-gii-bounces+ivor.soans=network18online.com@lists.india-gii.org] On Behalf Of Sajan Venniyoor
Sent: 22 January 2015 13:55
To: Ramnarayan.K
Cc: india-gii
Subject: Re: [india-gii] DND Sharing of phone number

H'm. I combine DND with my Android phone's blacklist functionality<http://www.wikihow.com/Block-a-Number-on-Android>, with admirable results.

I'm not sure the blacklist / auto-reject function is available on all smart-phones, or even on some of the less syrupy earlier avatars of Android (I have Kit-Kat or Lollipop or some thing). The rejected party is told, "You are not dialling a valid number" which, I suppose, is less hurtful than the conventional "If you call me again, you abysmal sod, I'll track you down and strangle you with your own intestines."

And, yes, you can unblock them just as easily. Very useful when dealing with friends and family.

Sajan

On 22 January 2015 at 13:36, Ramnarayan.K <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This is interesting.
Particularly about goons landing up at the door step :-)
My experience with DND is mixed - on the whole once I have registered for DND with the SP the  spam calls have dropped sharply. In some case where I have registered for DND with some other kind of service provide (like Satellite TV etc) they have called once to clarify that I have registered for DND with them,  which would mean they cannot call even when my subscription etc runs out, after saying yes they have been pretty good in not sending spam or calling.

However one nasty number 57171 refuses to go away - there is no information on who they are , and how they "subscribed me" consequently every week i end up paying Rs 1 for "personality tips" their de-subscribe message number replies back with Invalid Request.
So just like the goons can get hold of our information, i wonder if there is a way of getting information about the spam thugs so that we could release some law at them.
ram

On 22 January 2015 at 12:59, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

An IT manager major insurance company once called me frantically saying the telco was threatening to disconnect their main board line due to my complaint of telemarketing spam :)

Sharing complainant data is just plain wrong though.. Not all are likely to be apologetic. Many  of these spams are sent  by shady builders etc and they are quite capable of sending goons to your house due to the complaint if your data is shared back to them

As for the withdrawal you may want to send a email to the guy who contacted you saying you withdraw it, and he can send it to the telco. That is if you so wish. If you prefer to keep the complaint and let the guy get disconnected that is surely your prerogative too.

On January 22, 2015 12:38:05 PM Manuj Gupta <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Whenever I get a spam SMS, I generally report it to the service provider for action through one of the apps I have. However, surprisingly, yesterday I got a call from one of the persons whose number I had reported for withdrawing the complaint. The person was apologetic enough but I wasnt/am not really sure what mechanism exists for withdrawing complaints once they have been reported. Does anyone know?
Also, I am still baffled as to how could the service provider share my phone number with this person so freely without even asking me? Does anyone know if this is allowed?



Regards

Manuj Gupta
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