Re: Fwd: IAC's response to TRAI's Consultation Paper no. 2/2015 "OTT Services"

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From:"Vickram Crishna" <v1clist-/[email protected]>
Date:Wed, 22 Apr, 2015 at 11:04 am
Subject:Re: [india-gii] Fwd: IAC's response to TRAI's Consultation Paper no. 2/2015 "OTT Services"

In my opinion, the spirited response to Sarabjit's post was mainly because of its negative tone, and lack of alternatives, plus the mysterious references. 


Still he does suggest the issue is restricted to mobile networks, as though the fact of their overwhelming reach (over other media solutions for information exchange) is irrelevant in terms of the use that society finds. The counter argument is that whatever use that be, it should not restrict by design the access to information for others, and that does not mean provide access for free, it means don't throttle the pipes. It does not mean you can't be trusted, it just that somebody else already holds the keys and we aren't looking for change.


But if we do look for change, it should certainly be away from the unbridled monopoly handed to one particular purveyor of a narrow group of technologies, a set of businesses whose worth is suspiciously higher than their turnover might lead one to expect. So far, the discussion seems to be centered more on an ugly little skirmish between a couple of contenders, as though the symptoms are the disease.


Is it feasible? As technology, yes there are alternatives, but in terms of the  wherewithal to do it, it is chicken and egg until the knowledge and awareness of how straightforward it is to do this sort of thing in villages percolates. 

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From:"Sarbajit Roy" <[email protected]>
Date:Wed, 22 Apr, 2015 at 9:55 am
Subject:Re: [india-gii] Fwd: IAC's response to TRAI's Consultation Paper no. 2/2015 "OTT Services"

Dear Mahesh

I did not imply or impute that you are a Mukesh Ambani associate or minion. 

I posted the link to your article accompanied by text describing that a news portal associated with Shri Mukesh Ambani, ie. Firstpost.com, was circulating articles encouraging people to "spam" the TRAI's consultation process on a non-issue like "net neutrality" over mobile phone networks.

There is a concerted campaign by foreign interests to get certain beneficial provisions of the IT Act disabled, directly or indirectly.

The first step to this was taken in the SC's 66-A judgement - which under cover of 66-A effectively disabled the ITIGR 2011 in its concluding paras without any reasons - except that Google and Facebook were overloaded with complaints being made to them under these rules.

The net neutrality frenzy being whipped up, is only a smokescreen for more such skullduggery. And that Reliance Jio is the largest "datapipe" waiting to be activated makes it more interesting. 


Sarbajit



On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Mahesh Murthy <[email protected]> wrote:

Thank you, Sarabjit.


I am the author of the post that FirstPost put up, with my permission.


Some bloke on DataQuest has just said I was a stooge paid by Bezos. 


And you're saying it's Mukesh Ambani who is behind me.


Look, I'm glad either way.


Can you please get one of these billionaires to pay me?


All well-meaning stooges deserve to get paid.



Warm regards,



Mahesh

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On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Nikhil Pahwa <[email protected]> wrote:

Have you ever done stand-up comedy? 

On Apr 21, 2015 10:07 PM, "Sarbajit Roy" <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Nikhil

1) What "allegation" ? I see "opinion" which is being conveyed in a formal response to a controversial public notice for consultation issued by a statutory authority. I also see lots of people, voicing their "opinion" on this non-issue, which I would like to respond to by way of submitting formal counter-comments. If anyone has a problem with what I write, they can respond in the same way, or take me to court.

2) For eg. we have a Mukesh Ambani associated media outlet on this RFC which contributed to my forming my aforesaid "opinion" on this non-issue.
http://www.firstpost.com/politics/big-fight-net-neutrality-airtel-voda-trai-trying-screw-internet-users-2193321.html

3) You have your sources, I have mine.

Sarbajit

On 4/21/15, Nikhil Pahwa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Really? "Private info" ?
>
> If you're making an allegation,  then you should be ready to prove it.
> On Apr 21, 2015 4:59 AM, "sarbajit roy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tarun
>>
>> a) Private info
>> b) Counter-comments allowed till 8 May 2015
>> c) Open Houses are the norm at TRAI, but I wonder how they will go
>> about counter-comments / OpenHouses with so many submissions.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On 4/20/15, Tarun Dua <lists-w/I/[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On what basis do you make this statement ?
>> >
>> > "That IAC’s long response will follow after a) “anal”ysing the millions
>> of
>> > “spam” protests demanding “Net Neutrality” sent to you, which
>> incidentally
>> > appear to IAC as being organized by Mr. Mukesh Ambani’s 4G associates /
>> > minions over their vast media cross-holdings, b) counter-commenting on
>> the
>> > same, c) participating in the TRAI’s Open House/s and so on."
>> >
>> > -Tarun
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Sarbajit Roy
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> To:
>> >> TRAI
>> >>
>> >> Please find attached our response to TRAI's paper no 2/2015
>> >>
>> >> sincerely
>> >>
>> >> Er. Sarbajit Roy
>> >> for "India Against Corruption"
>> >>
>> >>
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