Re: Resignation of Suresh Ramasubramanian and Udhay Shankar from the india-gii moderator role

As a proponent of free speech, I may lean even farther toward allowance 
than even Arun.

Hypothetically, if a member was to post something blatantly racist, 
would we feel that such speech should be allowed here? Given that I have 
been asked to tone down far less insulting speech, can we not agree that 
asking the membership to keep within the topic this list is centered on 
is not restricting free speech?

Accusing someone of being financed by the porn industry is not discourse 
I find useful even though it really didn't bother me - but that's 
because I believe that every single human being is endowed with an 
unalienable right to make a complete jackass out of themselves. This is 
something I feel very strongly about, with the understanding that I 
would be lost without the freedom to embarrass myself on a regular 
basis. ;-)

Cordially,

Ken DiPietro
Cumberland MD

On 05/18/2015 11:47 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Using your own analogy, suppose he beats his wife at home, but is an 
> exemplary employee at work (a brilliant programmer or something of the 
> sort, say).
>
> Or perhaps heÂ’s a suave gentleman when he goes to his club for a drink 
> and a round of golf, and a brilliant quizzer if heÂ’s on a quiz team.
>
> If you knew he beat his wife at home, you may want to avoid him 
> socially but have little or no excuse to avoid or bar him 
> professionally.  Or possibly not.
>
> This is an interesting case here.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/firing-of-shawn-simoes-for-off-duty-fhritp-video-reflects-employment-trend-1.3071919
>
> I understand ArunÂ’s sterling background in free speech and his 
> concerns that it should not be suppressed at any costs, and that a 
> radical voice in the wilderness is a useful thing to have.
>
> I can even respect that.
>
> However, and I hope ArunÂ’s moderation efforts that he described will 
> resolve this, a clear line must be drawn between expressing - even 
> strongly expressing - a minority point of view, versus carrying out 
> vicious personal attacks on those who hold opposite views.
>
> After ArunÂ’s explanatory note and his proposal to moderate Sarbajit, I 
> consider the matter closed for now.
>
> —srs
>
>
>> On 18-May-2015, at 9:01 pm, Ratnendra Pandey <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> Take an example. There is a member who beats his wife every evening. 
>> Should this be enough reason to send the member out of this list.
>> This can be argued from the both sides.  Is it that a bad guy will be 
>> bad guy everywhere?  Or, bad at one occasion or instance does not 
>> make the person always bad?
>
>
>
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