Re: Resignation of Suresh Ramasubramanian and Udhay Shankar from the india-gii moderator role

Ram Bhat <[email protected]> Mon, 18 May 2015 19:25:05 +0100
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The porn industry+gambling dig refers to Anurag Dikshit btw.


On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:46 PM, ken <[email protected]> wrote:

>  As a proponent of free speech, I may lean even farther toward allowance
> than even Arun.
>
> Hypothetically, if a member was to post something blatantly racist, would
> we feel that such speech should be allowed here? Given that I have been
> asked to tone down far less insulting speech, can we not agree that asking
> the membership to keep within the topic this list is centered on is not
> restricting free speech?
>
> Accusing someone of being financed by the porn industry is not discourse I
> find useful even though it really didn't bother me - but that's because I
> believe that every single human being is endowed with an unalienable right
> to make a complete jackass out of themselves. This is something I feel very
> strongly about, with the understanding that I would be lost without the
> freedom to embarrass myself on a regular basis. ;-)
>
> Cordially,
>
> Ken DiPietro
> Cumberland MD
>
>
> On 05/18/2015 11:47 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>
> Using your own analogy, suppose he beats his wife at home, but is an
> exemplary employee at work (a brilliant programmer or something of the
> sort, say).
>
>  Or perhaps he’s a suave gentleman when he goes to his club for a drink
> and a round of golf, and a brilliant quizzer if he’s on a quiz team.
>
>  If you knew he beat his wife at home, you may want to avoid him socially
> but have little or no excuse to avoid or bar him professionally.  Or
> possibly not.
>
>  This is an interesting case here.
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/firing-of-shawn-simoes-for-off-duty-fhritp-video-reflects-employment-trend-1.3071919
>
>  I understand Arun’s sterling background in free speech and his concerns
> that it should not be suppressed at any costs, and that a radical voice in
> the wilderness is a useful thing to have.
>
>  I can even respect that.
>
>  However, and I hope Arun’s moderation efforts that he described will
> resolve this, a clear line must be drawn between expressing - even strongly
> expressing - a minority point of view, versus carrying out vicious personal
> attacks on those who hold opposite views.
>
>  After Arun’s explanatory note and his proposal to moderate Sarbajit, I
> consider the matter closed for now.
>
>  —srs
>
>
>  On 18-May-2015, at 9:01 pm, Ratnendra Pandey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Take an example. There is a member who beats his wife every evening.
> Should this be enough reason to send the member out of this list.
> This can be argued from the both sides.  Is it that a bad guy will be bad
> guy everywhere?  Or, bad at one occasion or instance does not make the
> person always bad?
>
>
>
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