Re: why strict Net neutrality works best: simple beats complex

just to be precise : you would need to modify all routers to disable the
function since it is already being done. The OTT get advertising and data
analytic revenue not the infrastructure owner.
one solution (eg Ruwanda) is all (internet backbone) infrastructures are
built by government from local taxes. do you propose this so that all
infrastructures are owned by government from public funds and then all
service providers including OTT "travel" free?
On May 19, 2015 3:13 PM, "Kiritkumar Lathia" <[email protected]> wrote:

> quick reply:
> a) is a reality in IPv6!
> b) who is exactly funding infrastructures ? and how do they justify the
> investment? how do they get ROI?
>
> of course nobody wishes to pay road tax if they can get away with it.
> On May 19, 2015 2:07 PM, "ken" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have two issues with the line of thinking below even though I
>> understand that a VoiP packet is far more time sensitive than a Youtube cat
>> video.
>>
>> 1.) If we allow for packet header inspection and prioritization, who
>> exactly is allowed to make these choices and how can you guarantee the rest
>> of us that no one will misuse this process?
>>
>> 2.) Can you explain why a person who has so clearly laid out a succinct
>> argument for keeping our network as simple as possible would now advocate
>> adding another level of complexity?
>>
>> From my point of view, the problem isn't that we need to invest in
>> prioritization because our networks are too congested, the problem lies in
>> the fact that we are not spending enough money adding capacity. What you
>> propose is to take funds away from building network infrastructure to be
>> used for a bandaid.
>>
>>
>> On 05/19/2015 06:56 AM, Kiritkumar Lathia wrote:
>>
>>> Arun, whether one wants to or not, these all packet header fields need
>>> to be analysed to allow proper packet flow. The Priority/Traffic Class is a
>>> 8 bit field if I remember correctly so you are not going to have that much
>>> choices in the priorities. That is why I try to always explain by using
>>> roads as example. During Commonwealth games, a priority lane was
>>> "permanently" created for VIPs traffic - think of this as a dedicated
>>> "virtual circuit switch". On the other hand you have ambulances, police,
>>> etc. who want to have priority on the road so they can save lives. One know
>>> this by flashing lights and sirens - consider this as "Priority Class=x".
>>> People have to move out (throttled) to allow the priority cars to go
>>> forward.
>>> This will be needed more and more as we move to 5G which will change the
>>> Internet we know it today with a conservative estimate of 50+billion
>>> devices connected to Internet vs about 6billion for human beings! When we
>>> talk about e-health where a surgeon is operating on a patient remotely
>>> using robotic arms and instruments; should this suffer the same potential
>>> delays because someone is downloading a film?
>>>
>>
>> As millimeter wave communications continues to drop in price and near
>> field terahertz wave communication is now becoming practical, I see no such
>> problem with data freely passing as you predict - that is, unless we start
>> implementing prioritization instead of building out the network we need.
>> Additionally, fiber has become so cheap to deploy that it now makes
>> financial sense to remove the copper network and replace it with fiber -
>> and that's calculated at US labor rates.
>>
>> To fall back on your comparison to roads, the only real way to relive
>> traffic jams is to build additional capacity - not to add one million
>> policemen to direct traffic.
>>
>> The IOT is often used to inject FUD into this discussion but the reality
>> is, even if we were to add "50+billion devices" to the network, almost all
>> of them will be very low bit rate devices.
>>
>> Ken DiPietro
>> Cumberland MD
>>
>>
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