Emf and mobile phones

Vickram Crishna <v1clist-/[email protected]> Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:34:21 +0000 (UTC)
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One of the cases filed in a High Court (Bombay) has now been transferred to=
 the Supreme Court, pleading for higher margins of safety for the allowable=
 emissions of cell towers. The regulator opposes it, because the country ha=
s set a standard that is followed in some parts of the world. However, in o=
thers, it is far more strict, and is also sometimes tightly controlled to e=
nsure that the emissions of multiple antennae of multiple operators using t=
he same towers do not sum up in any particular direction.=C2=A0
Some part of the problem here is the possibility of collusion between opera=
tors and the emissions monitoring department. Call drops have become an act=
ionable thing, although action is really not very visible, whereas high emi=
ssions are far more difficult to rein in.=C2=A0
In cities like Mumbai, I have no data for any other place, there is an addi=
tional serious problem, that of illegal and possibly unregulated towers. Th=
ese are towers mounted illegally on buildings, over the objections of the o=
wners or occupants. Many buildings are plagued with internal disputes, crea=
ting a situation where permission need not be formally granted. The situati=
on is actually horrendous, with half the installations in such a state. For=
 some infuriating reason, it is actually easier to legally challenge a misb=
ehaving legal installation than an illegal one, as the state seems very rel=
uctant to step in and resolve the question of permissions for towers prima =
facie, and treats only the legal ones as worthy of regulation.=C2=A0
It is hard to predict what view the court may take.=C2=A0
But, as we saw on this list many years ago, it is also hard to understand h=
ow regulations are created =E2=80=94 at one time, I haven't checked lately,=
 India must have been the only industrial nation that permitted emf of 4W i=
n the junk microwave band, although the vast bulk of commercial equipment u=
sed by consumers emits no more than 100mW, and actual microwave ovens are n=
ot supposed to emit anything palpable at all, with the emitting elements co=
ntained in a Faraday cage (which has a large glass plate fitted in the door=
, rather poorly for a Faraday cage, but consumers demand a view of what's c=
ooking. The glass has a wire mesh embedded in it, but exactly how this cons=
titutes a continuous cage eludes me). Measurements with a phone based emf d=
etection app, of which there are many, are not always reassuring.

Vickram
________
Adlai Stevenson was once told, "All thinking people are with you."=20
"That's not enough," he replied, "I need a majority."
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One of the cases filed in a High Court (Bombay) has now been transferred to=
 the Supreme Court, pleading for higher margins of safety for the allowable=
 emissions of cell towers. The regulator opposes it, because the country ha=
s set a standard that is followed in some parts of the world. However, in o=
thers, it is far more strict, and is also sometimes tightly controlled to e=
nsure that the emissions of multiple antennae of multiple operators using t=
he same towers do not sum up in any particular direction.&nbsp;<div id=3D"y=
Mail_cursorElementTracker_1535123829196"><br></div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorE=
lementTracker_1535123829373">Some part of the problem here is the possibili=
ty of collusion between operators and the emissions monitoring department. =
Call drops have become an actionable thing, although action is really not v=
ery visible, whereas high emissions are far more difficult to rein in.&nbsp=
;</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1535123932826"><br></div><div =
id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1535123933040">In cities like Mumbai, I ha=
ve no data for any other place, there is an additional serious problem, tha=
t of illegal and possibly unregulated towers. These are towers mounted ille=
gally on buildings, over the objections of the owners or occupants. Many bu=
ildings are plagued with internal disputes, creating a situation where perm=
ission need not be formally granted. The situation is actually horrendous, =
with half the installations in such a state. For some infuriating reason, i=
t is actually easier to legally challenge a misbehaving legal installation =
than an illegal one, as the state seems very reluctant to step in and resol=
ve the question of permissions for towers prima facie, and treats only the =
legal ones as worthy of regulation.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorEleme=
ntTracker_1535124385425"><br></div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_15=
35124385625">It is hard to predict what view the court may take.&nbsp;</div=
><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1535124417684"><br></div><div id=3D"=
yMail_cursorElementTracker_1535124417859">But, as we saw on this list many =
years ago, it is also hard to understand how regulations are created =E2=80=
=94 at one time, I haven't checked lately, India must have been the only in=
dustrial nation that permitted emf of 4W in the junk microwave band, althou=
gh the vast bulk of commercial equipment used by consumers emits no more th=
an 100mW, and actual microwave ovens are not supposed to emit anything palp=
able at all, with the emitting elements contained in a Faraday cage (which =
has a large glass plate fitted in the door, rather poorly for a Faraday cag=
e, but consumers demand a view of what's cooking. The glass has a wire mesh=
 embedded in it, but exactly how this constitutes a continuous cage eludes =
me). Measurements with a phone based emf detection app, of which there are =
many, are not always reassuring.<br><br><div id=3D"ymail_android_signature"=
>Vickram<br>________<br>Adlai Stevenson was once told, "All thinking people=
 are with you." <br>"That's not enough," he replied, "I need a majority."<b=
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