Re: COX Internet/Digital Cable Help!?
Michael Gichoga <[email protected]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:57:19 -0500
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--Apple-Mail-6FAECD7B-0D2B-4DA2-AC74-227A14E02C66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are not alone. I've had the exact same problem for the last two months = or so only that mine were more frequent. They sent two techs out; the first= one was worthless. He came and repositioned (as in made it face a differen= t direction) the modem and said that was the problem. He was lucky it was o= ne of my family members who was there because I was at work otherwise I wou= ld have given him a piece of my mind. The second one identified signal problems and spent about half a day outsid= e fixing it. Although not completely fixed, it doesn't go offline as much a= s it did before. Personally I think Cox has either oversubscribed users or = they have cabling and routing problems. I don't have uverse where I am right now and no way I'm going to DSL. I'm s= tuck with Cox's underachieving service. All that I am doing now is collecti= ng uptime info so I can present it to someone up stream so they know what k= ind of service they're charging for. It's not nice to watch Netflix and in = the middle of the movie internet goes out. Hope they can get yours resolved. Mike > On Jul 26, 2015, at 23:04, David Carmichael <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > Dale & Jeremy:=20 > Thanks for your replies!=20 > I hope it is not corporate.. but when you take into consideration that I = am only using 25% on my heaviest month of my allowed data stream I kind of = hope that this is not the case. > I have sent logs and screen grabs of COX's own speed test program showing= the lost of signal. > Will see what happens next. >=20 >=20 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Time spent with cats is never wasted." - Sigmund Freud > I live in my own little world. But it's OK. They know me here.=20 > Growing older is mandatory... Growing up is optional... > ----------------------------------------------- > Wii Address: 0441-6820-0158-3757 / Mario Kart Wii: 3052-0348-5504 / XBox = 360 ID: FrontwardLeaf6 > ----------------------------------------------- >=20 >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Jeremy Jones <[email protected]> wrot= e: >> David, >> I had the exact same problem and the exact same results. It took me cal= ling corporate and demanding something to be done before they looked into i= t. Eventually they sent out techs to monitor my neighborhood for 48 hours = straight, and it was only then that they noticed that the cabling was beyon= d it's usable life and had tons of squirrel bites into and through the cabl= e. It took them almost two years after that before they were finished runn= ing new cabling throughout the neighborhood. =20 >>=20 >> Unfortunately that did not quite fix the problem. I still had the same = repeated drops as I had before (I still had access to the modem at this poi= nt), but I had a good strong signal when I had a signal. One of the next t= echs that came out locked me out of my modem, told me that he could not tro= ubleshoot anything from the pole to the cable box unless I wanted to pay so= me outrageous amount per hour for premise wiring troubleshooting, and that = was the answer I got from every tech from that point on. (and Gawd help yo= u if you hack back into YOUR modem that YOU bought so that you can monitor = THEIR connection, that pisses them off to no end and might end your ability= to use Cox, which is not entirely a bad thing ;-) ) >>=20 >> Needless to say, I begged AT&T to get UVERSE in our neighborhood and fin= ally got them to realize that they had a huge group of customers waiting to= give them their money. In the end, I moved. I will never touch another C= ox again. LOL >>=20 >> BTW, the property this was at, is located in a neighborhood near Kinsler= Elementary, if that helps any. Good luck. Try calling their corporate of= fices, they might be able to help. >>=20 >> Jeremy >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 5:28 AM, David Carmichael <[email protected]> w= rote: >>> COX Internet/Digital Cable Help!? >>>=20 >>> I am defaulting to you guys for help.... as the onsite service technici= an says that I have a strong signal by all the testing that he can do, and = other than a number of loose connections in my junction box he could not fi= nd anything wrong...other than a bad voice line filter which he replaced. >>>=20 >>> I have had off and on troubles for about three years// yet when a techn= ician shows up there is nothing wrong! >>>=20 >>> The issue is.. I drop internet signal per my monitoring software (The N= et Uptime Monitor V1.8.1 02/26/2014) for about 10-20 seconds.. this drop c= an happen as often as every ten minutes or once every 12 hours I never make= it to a thirteenth hour! When this drop happens I also loose sync on my d= igital tuner that is connected to my TIVO. >>>=20 >>> I have run the on site COX speed test and it even shows the drop of sig= nal in their graph... but my over all speed is greater than they support. >>>=20 >>> I have an older Cisco DCP3850 (three years or older) WiFi/Modem with th= e latest firmware dated April 2015, it is a DOS.3 rated combo device. >>>=20 >>> I would think it was a modem if only the Internet was effected... but a= lso affecting digital cable and the service technician saw where I could no= t tune into digital channels (2208 and above) while the loss was happening = (other channels worked fine). >>>=20 >>> Now the issue has gotten worse since the rains of 7/21/15. >>>=20 >>> So what could be causing a unsteady signal, so I can inform COX to chec= k their part XYZ?? >>>=20 >>> Net Uptime Monitor Failure Log (NetUptimeMonitor.com) >>> Licensed to David Carmichael >>> =20 >>> 7/25/2015 11:49:23 PM Log Start >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> Failure Start Length >>> 7/25/2015 11:59:34 PM 0:00:11 >>> 7/26/2015 12:02:34 AM 0:00:19 >>> 7/26/2015 12:17:13 AM 0:00:12 >>> 7/26/2015 12:21:36 AM 0:00:20 >>> 7/26/2015 12:24:22 AM 0:00:12 >>> 7/26/2015 12:27:01 AM 0:00:11 >>> 7/26/2015 12:42:11 AM 0:00:13 >>> 7/26/2015 12:53:49 AM 0:00:10 >>> 7/26/2015 12:55:36 AM 0:00:11 >>> 7/26/2015 1:02:10 AM 0:00:11 >>> 7/26/2015 1:02:53 AM 0:00:14 >>> 7/26/2015 1:11:23 AM 0:00:20 >>> 7/26/2015 1:20:25 AM 0:00:13 >>> 7/26/2015 1:22:20 AM 0:00:19 >>> 7/26/2015 1:27:23 AM 0:00:10 >>> 7/26/2015 1:32:45 AM 0:00:14 >>> 7/26/2015 1:40:26 AM 0:00:12 >>> 7/26/2015 2:02:31 AM 0:00:12 >>> 7/26/2015 2:03:20 AM 0:00:12 >>> 7/26/2015 2:07:54 AM 0:00:17 >>> 7/26/2015 2:28:03 AM 0:00:14 >>> 7/26/2015 2:29:54 AM 0:00:16 >>> 7/26/2015 2:33:18 AM 0:00:17 >>> 7/26/2015 2:37:29 AM 0:00:18 >>> 7/26/2015 2:41:12 AM 0:00:15 >>> 7/26/2015 2:48:11 AM 0:00:22 >>> 7/26/2015 2:58:21 AM 0:00:24 >>> 7/26/2015 3:06:25 AM 0:00:18 >>> 7/26/2015 3:07:15 AM 0:00:16 >>> 7/26/2015 3:12:47 AM 0:00:11 >>> 7/26/2015 3:21:12 AM 0:00:18 >>> 7/26/2015 3:35:27 AM 0:00:14 >>> 7/26/2015 4:00:40 AM 0:00:11 >>> 7/26/2015 4:01:39 AM 0:00:12 >>> 7/26/2015 4:17:01 AM 0:00:11 >>> 7/26/2015 4:18:33 AM 0:00:19 >>> 7/26/2015 4:36:52 AM 0:00:13 >>> 7/26/2015 4:44:56 AM 0:00:17 >>> 7/26/2015 4:51:19 AM 0:00:15 >>> 7/26/2015 4:56:41 AM 0:00:11 >>> 7/26/2015 5:03:17 AM 0:00:13 >>> 7/26/2015 5:13:00 AM 0:00:17 >>> 7/26/2015 5:14:12 AM 0:00:14 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ----------------------------------------------- >>> "Time spent with cats is never wasted." - Sigmund Freud >>> ----------------------------------------------- >>> --=20 >>>=20 >>> ---=20 >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "ACLUG Discussion" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send = an email to aclug-discussion+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected] >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> ---=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s "ACLUG Discussion" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n email to aclug-discussion+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected] >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ---=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "ACLUG Discussion" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to aclug-discussion+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected] > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --=20 ---=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ACLUG Discussion" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to aclug-discussion+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected] For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --Apple-Mail-6FAECD7B-0D2B-4DA2-AC74-227A14E02C66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset= =3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>You are not alone. I've had the ex= act same problem for the last two months or so only that mine were more fre= quent. They sent two techs out; the first one was worthless. He came and re= positioned (as in made it face a different direction) the modem and said th= at was the problem. He was lucky it was one of my family members who was th= ere because I was at work otherwise I would have given him a piece of my mi= nd.</div><div><br></div><div>The second one identified signal problems and = spent about half a day outside fixing it. Although not completely fixed, it= doesn't go offline as much as it did before. Personally I think Cox has ei= ther oversubscribed users or they have cabling and routing problems.</div><= div><br></div><div>I don't have uverse where I am right now and no way I'm = going to DSL. I'm stuck with Cox's underachieving service. All that I am do= ing now is collecting uptime info so I can present it to someone up stream = so they know what kind of service they're charging for. It's not nice to wa= tch Netflix and in the middle of the movie internet goes out.</div><div><br= ></div><div>Hope they can get yours resolved.</div><div><br></div><div>Mike= <br><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Jul 26, 2015, at 23:04, David Carmicha= el <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote= :<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dale & J= eremy: <div>Thanks for your replies! </div><div>I hope it is not = corporate.. but when you take into consideration that I am only using 25% o= n my heaviest month of my allowed data stream I kind of hope that this is n= ot the case.<br></div><div>I have sent logs and screen grabs of COX's own s= peed test program showing the lost of signal.</div><div>Will see what happe= ns next.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div = class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><u><b= r></u></div><div><u>-----------------------------------------------</u><br>= </div><div><font face=3D"georgia, serif" color=3D"#783f04">"Time spent with= cats is never wasted." <b>- Sigmund Freud</b></font></div><div>I live in m= y own little world. But it's OK. They know me here. </div><div><i><b>G= rowing older is mandatory... Growing up is optional...</b></i></div><div><u= >-----------------------------------------------</u><i><b></b></i></div><di= v><b style=3D"font-family:'arial black',sans-serif;font-size:x-small">Wii A= ddress: 0441-6820-0158-3757 / Mario Kart Wii: 3052-0348-5504 / XBox 360 ID:= FrontwardLeaf6</b><br></div><div><u>--------------------------------------= ---------</u></div></div></div></div></div></div> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Jeremy Jone= s <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_b= lank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma= il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef= t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">David,<div>I had the exact same problem and the exa= ct same results. It took me calling corporate and demanding something= to be done before they looked into it. Eventually they sent out tech= s to monitor my neighborhood for 48 hours straight, and it was only then th= at they noticed that the cabling was beyond it's usable life and had tons o= f squirrel bites into and through the cable. It took them almost two = years after that before they were finished running new cabling throughout t= he neighborhood. </div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately that did not= quite fix the problem. I still had the same repeated drops as I had = before (I still had access to the modem at this point), but I had a good st= rong signal when I had a signal. One of the next techs that came out = locked me out of my modem, told me that he could not troubleshoot anything = from the pole to the cable box unless I wanted to pay some outrageous amoun= t per hour for premise wiring troubleshooting, and that was the answer I go= t from every tech from that point on. (and Gawd help you if you hack = back into YOUR modem that YOU bought so that you can monitor THEIR connecti= on, that pisses them off to no end and might end your ability to use Cox, w= hich is not entirely a bad thing ;-) )</div><div><br></div><div>Needl= ess to say, I begged AT&T to get UVERSE in our neighborhood and finally= got them to realize that they had a huge group of customers waiting to giv= e them their money. In the end, I moved. I will never touch ano= ther Cox again. LOL</div><div><br></div><div>BTW, the property this w= as at, is located in a neighborhood near Kinsler Elementary, if that helps = any. Good luck. Try calling their corporate offices, they might= be able to help.</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div>= <br></div><div>Jeremy</div><div><br></div><div> </div></font></span></= div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div cla= ss=3D"h5">On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 5:28 AM, David Carmichael <span dir=3D"lt= r"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">dec2955@gmail= .com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"= style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><d= iv><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>COX Internet/Digital Cable Help!= ?<br></div><div><br></div>I am defaulting to you guys for help.... as the o= nsite service technician says that I have a strong signal by all the testin= g that he can do, and other than a number of loose connections in my juncti= on box he could not find anything wrong...other than a bad voice line filte= r which he replaced.<div><br></div><div>I have had off and on troubles for = about three years// yet when a technician shows up there is nothing wrong!<= /div><div><br></div><div>The issue is.. I drop internet signal per my monit= oring software (The Net Uptime Monitor V1.8.1 02/26/2014) for about 1= 0-20 seconds.. this drop can happen as often as every ten minutes or once e= very 12 hours I never make it to a thirteenth hour! When this drop ha= ppens I also loose sync on my digital tuner that is connected to my TIVO.</= div><div><br></div><div>I have run the on site COX speed test and it even s= hows the drop of signal in their graph... but my over all speed is greater = than they support.</div><div><br></div><div>I have an older Cisco DCP3850 (= three years or older) WiFi/Modem with the latest firmware dated April 2015,= it is a DOS.3 rated combo device.</div><div><br></div><div>I would think i= t was a modem if only the Internet was effected... but also affecting digit= al cable and the service technician saw where I could not tune into digital= channels (2208 and above) while the loss was happening (other channels wor= ked fine).</div><div><br></div><div>Now the issue has gotten worse since th= e rains of 7/21/15.</div><div><br></div><div>So what could be causing a uns= teady signal, so I can inform COX to check their part XYZ??</div><div><br><= div><div>Net Uptime Monitor Failure Log (<a 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