Re: Web/Email Hosting Suggestions?

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"Virtual server" has come to mean many different things these days, from 
a simple web virtual host, to a full-fledged virtual server instance. 
You want the latter, and it will give you what you need.  You have your 
own kernel*, your own root account, your own Linux distribution, your 
own IP address, etc.  So you'll still be a sysadmin in the fullest 
sense, you just won't have to worry about hardware reliability.

Some (many, most?) virtual server hosts will offer nightly/weekly 
backups of your server, monitoring services, and possibly even some 
level of system administration, if you're willing to pay for these 
services.  I have been paying Rackspace for backups (comes to like 
$2/month extra for my particular setup).

Note, however, that, as far as I can tell, Rackspace is no longer 
selling new accounts like mine (my account was part of an acquisition, 
so I've been grandfathered in). But as I mentioned in my earlier email, 
there are many other companies selling very small virtual hosts for even 
less than I'm paying Rackspace.

Hope that helps.

-- Jonathan

*Some virtual server technologies share a kernel, or "parts" of a kernel 
with the parent machine, but from the perspective of your running 
applications, they effectively have their own kernel.

On 11/18/2015 01:42 AM, Dale W Hodge wrote:
> Your reasons and mine are the same, nothing wrong with hosting my own, 
> but I'd really rather somebody else be responsible for keeping it 
> running 24/7. :-)   What I may end up doing is let whatever web host I 
> pick provide the initial mailbox and then use fetchmail or getmail to 
> pull it to a local server so I can archive and do proper sorting.  
> While it doesn't keep me from having to run a local mail spool it does 
> provide for a way to continue to get email if something goes horribly 
> wrong on my end.   Not to mention that if I can run things on 
> something that uses 10 watts instead of 400 watts I might save enough 
> on power to pay for the hosting. ;-)
>
> I don't have any experience with hosted virtual servers, are they 
> configurable for whatever services and available 24/7?
>
> Thanks Jonathan!
>
>
> On 11/17/2015 3:08 PM, Jonathan Hall wrote:
>> I spent some significant time researching this about 6 months ago. I 
>> decided I was tired of being a sys admin for my low volume of web and 
>> email traffic.
>>
>> In the end, I decided I couldn't find good email hosting I was happy 
>> with (if you find something, though, please share!). So I ended up with:
>>
>> siteground.com to host my Wordpress blog
>> Godaddy to do my DNS
>> A cheap Linux virtual server to host my email (and for the occasional 
>> remote shell access, etc), and some throw-away file web/ftp hosting 
>> (i.e. poor man's dropbox)
>>
>> I'm paying roughly $13 to Rackspace for my virtual server which 
>> includes 256mb RAM and 10gb storage. There are much cheaper options 
>> available these days (in fact today I signed up to try a Digital 
>> Ocean Xen-based virtual server for $5/mo for 512mb RAM and 24gb SSD 
>> storage).
>>
>> Depending on the reasons you're considering moving away from your own 
>> server, some of this info may or may not be helpful :)
>>
>> -- Jonathan
>>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">"Virtual server" has come to mean many
      different things these days, from a simple web virtual host, to a
      full-fledged virtual server instance. You want the latter, and it
      will give you what you need.=C2=A0 You have your own kernel*, your ow=
n
      root account, your own Linux distribution, your own IP address,
      etc.=C2=A0 So you'll still be a sysadmin in the fullest sense, you ju=
st
      won't have to worry about hardware reliability.<br>
      <br>
      Some (many, most?) virtual server hosts will offer nightly/weekly
      backups of your server, monitoring services, and possibly even
      some level of system administration, if you're willing to pay for
      these services.=C2=A0 I have been paying Rackspace for backups (comes
      to like $2/month extra for my particular setup).<br>
      <br>
      Note, however, that, as far as I can tell, Rackspace is no longer
      selling new accounts like mine (my account was part of an
      acquisition, so I've been grandfathered in). But as I mentioned in
      my earlier email, there are many other companies selling very
      small virtual hosts for even less than I'm paying Rackspace.<br>
      <br>
      Hope that helps.<br>
      <br>
      -- Jonathan<br>
      <br>
      *Some virtual server technologies share a kernel, or "parts" of a
      kernel with the parent machine, but from the perspective of your
      running applications, they effectively have their own kernel.<br>
      <br>
      On 11/18/2015 01:42 AM, Dale W Hodge wrote:<br>
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      Your reasons and mine are the same, nothing wrong with hosting my
      own, but I'd really rather somebody else be responsible for
      keeping it running 24/7. :-)=C2=A0=C2=A0 What I may end up doing is l=
et
      whatever web host I pick provide the initial mailbox and then use
      fetchmail or getmail to pull it to a local server so I can archive
      and do proper sorting.=C2=A0 While it doesn't keep me from having to
      run a local mail spool it does provide for a way to continue to
      get email if something goes horribly wrong on my end. =C2=A0 Not to
      mention that if I can run things on something that uses 10 watts
      instead of 400 watts I might save enough on power to pay for the
      hosting. ;-)<br>
      <br>
      I don't have any experience with hosted virtual servers, are they
      configurable for whatever services and available 24/7?=C2=A0 <br>
      <br>
      Thanks Jonathan!<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 11/17/2015 3:08 PM, Jonathan Hall
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        <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">I spent some significant time
          researching this about 6 months ago. I decided I was tired of
          being a sys admin for my low volume of web and email traffic.<br>
          <br>
          In the end, I decided I couldn't find good email hosting I was
          happy with (if you find something, though, please share!). So
          I ended up with:<br>
          <br>
          siteground.com to host my Wordpress blog<br>
          Godaddy to do my DNS<br>
          A cheap Linux virtual server to host my email (and for the
          occasional remote shell access, etc), and some throw-away file
          web/ftp hosting (i.e. poor man's dropbox)<br>
          <br>
          I'm paying roughly $13 to Rackspace for my virtual server
          which includes 256mb RAM and 10gb storage. There are much
          cheaper options available these days (in fact today I signed
          up to try a Digital Ocean Xen-based virtual server for $5/mo
          for 512mb RAM and 24gb SSD storage).<br>
          <br>
          Depending on the reasons you're considering moving away from
          your own server, some of this info may or may not be helpful
          :)<br>
          <br>
          -- Jonathan<br>
          <br>
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