Re: Debian

Richard Ford <[email protected]> Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:13:03 +0800
Newsgroups gmane.org.user-groups.linux.beijing.tech
Organization Creditude
Message-ID <1080717182.6694.138.camel__42819.617506075$1080717251@localhost.localdomain>
The automated updates are not so much debian but because of apt.

Apt started with another linux distro (I forget which one - which is now
defunct) and the debian mob picked it up.

What makes apt great is two things:

1) The apt system itself.
2) The repositories of files to download and install.

Now I was keen to use debian before for one reason - apt.  But now apt
is for RH.  I know you can get apt for RH9 and the fedora legacy project
will maintain a repository for RH9.  But I use apt with FC1 and it is
great!

Love it!

The other issue with chines and this is in part based on my experience
with e-smith and Chinese language is that the command line also needs
Chinese support.

That is - the ability to use and display Chinese characters in the
terminal.

I believe (but do not know for sure - I am guessing) that the Chinese
support in X/Gnome/KDE comes from the graphics subsystem libraries.

I know that samba has support since 3.0 for Chinese characters but I
can't get that to work with Chinese windows and e-smith which uses samba
3.0.

So I feel that like there are font and frame buffer support issues for
various graphics cards and the terminal - that is also how language
support is handled.  Each subsystem needs support?

Just a guess.

Now if your only needs is easier updating and you are happy with RH9. I
suggest you check out http://www.fedora.us and look at getting apt (and
synaptic for GUI apt usage) installed on your RH9 boxes.

>From memory you run a very tight ship with respect to desktop needs, so
this may be much easier than going to debian - if all you are after is
apt?

RF.


On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 14:28, Graham Brown wrote:
> Richard,
> 
> I am not sure where the Chinese comes from - it is loaded fairly early in 
> install so I assume that it is in the distro.  Chinese works quite well in 
> RH but I do not know whether it is the same in Debian. I presume so, but I 
> would like to find out from someone already using it. (I guess I will to 
> just download and see how my staff go :-))
> 
> Automated updates seem to be distro dependent. At the moment, I understand 
> that Debian and Gentoo provide the best free auto update systems.  Again, I 
> have not tried them but I intend to.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:36 AM 31/03/2004 +0800, you wrote:
> >Would the "Chinese" part be just in the domain of the gnome project?
> >
> >I would guess that the underlying distro that powers the gnome (or KDE)
> >desktop environment would be of little consequence?
> >
> >And it is the distro that manages all the updating?
> >
> >RF.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 11:31, Graham Brown wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am getting lots of good feedback about how easy it is to keep Debian 
> > updated.
> > > Is anyone using Debian (in Chinese) on the desktop?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Graham Brown
> > >
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Graham Brown
>