答复: [blug-tech] Our server keeps getti ng blocked

"Ben Gunn" <[email protected]> Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:24:34 +0800
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But I had heard stories of Chinese mail servers being blocked by foreign
clients due to all the spam.  In regards to our server problem, I made =
some
firewall configuration changes and it seems to have done the trick.  =
However
this could just be coincidence.  Like I said this is a reoccurring =
problem.
As Fred said the =A1=B0problem is gone=A1=AD.until it comes back=A1=B1.

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Ben

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=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: blug-tech-bounces-+qp3TudyjKPvfBIPTTProkB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
[mailto:blug-tech-bounces-+qp3TudyjKPvfBIPTTProkB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED Richard Ford
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2005=C4=EA2=D4=C222=C8=D5 17:48
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Beijing LUG technical questions and assistance - =
Publicly posted
=D6=F7=CC=E2: RE: [blug-tech] Our server keeps getting blocked

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Best advice.

Do business in China, host in China.

RF.




On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 20:16 +0800, Frederic Muller wrote:=20

=20
I have had the same problem with China Telecom (in Guangdong area =
though)
and complained very hard to them. They could not explain the source of =
the
problem (we changed host and the next day the new host was blocked), =
even
installed a PC in our DMZ to check the connection (it once lasted for =
4-5
days... hard to handle business that way) and for now the problem is =
gone..
until it comes back.
=20
So you're not alone.
=20
Fred
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-----Original Message-----
From: blug-tech-bounces-+qp3TudyjKPvfBIPTTProkB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
[mailto:blug-tech-bounces-+qp3TudyjKPvfBIPTTProkB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Ben Gunn
Sent: Monday 21 February, 2005 13:53
To: 'Beijing LUG technical questions and assistance - Publicly posted'
Subject: [blug-tech] Our server keeps getting blocked
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Hi All,
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I am hoping one of you might be able to provide some insight into a =
problem
we are having with our server.  Our company uses a server which is =
hosted by
lunarpages.com in the US.  Over the last several weeks we have been =
having
an unending stream of connection problems.  Access to our website and =
mail
server keeps coming up and going down (although it stays down more than =
it
is up). =20
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I have been doing some research into the issue and this is what I have
discovered:
1.      The server name is resolving correctly so I don't believe it is =
a
DNS issue.
2.      If I go to our site via a proxy server located in a country =
other
than China there is no problem.
3.      If I go through an anonymous proxy within China I cannot get to =
the
server.
4.      The problem is intermittent (sometimes there is no problem, then =
all
of a sudden we cannot connect, then it will eventually work again)
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Additional info:
This problem was getting so severe that we recently changed hosts (now =
we
are using lunarpages.com).  After the change the problem seemed to have =
been
solved (with only the occasional connection problem), however, now it
appears that the same problem is occurring.
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I would love to hear any ideas as to what the issue may be.  If the host =
was
being blocked, why would it only work part of the time?  Perhaps it is a
problem with our office server, which functions as a router (IP
masquerading).  However, in the past it has been working perfectly and =
the
configuration has not been altered anytime recently.  Furthermore I can =
get
to any other website just not ours. Frustration extreme!!!!!
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Thanks in advance,
=20
Ben
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lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But I had heard =
stories of
Chinese mail servers being blocked by foreign clients due to all the =
spam. &nbsp;In
regards to our server problem, I made some firewall configuration =
changes and
it seems to have done the trick.&nbsp; However this could just be =
coincidence.&nbsp;
Like I said this is a reoccurring problem. As Fred said the =
=A1=B0problem is gone=A1=AD.until
it comes back=A1=B1.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ben<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-weight:bold'>=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB<span =
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></font></b><font size=3D2><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> =
blug-tech-bounces-+qp3TudyjKPvfBIPTTProkB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
[mailto:blug-tech-bounces-+qp3TudyjKPvfBIPTTProkB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org] </span></font><b><font =
size=3D2><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>=B4=FA=B1=ED =
</span></font></b><font size=3D2><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Richard Ford<br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4<span=

lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></font></b><font size=3D2><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> <st1:chsdate IsROCDate=3D"False" =
IsLunarDate=3D"False"
Day=3D"22" Month=3D"2" Year=3D"2005" w:st=3D"on">2005<span =
lang=3DEN-US><span lang=3DEN-US>=C4=EA2</span></span><span
 lang=3DEN-US><span lang=3DEN-US>=D4=C222</span></span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><span
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</span></font><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></font></b><font size=3D2><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> Beijing LUG technical questions and =
assistance -
Publicly posted<br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></font></b><font size=3D2><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> RE: [blug-tech] Our server keeps getting =
blocked</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Best
advice.<br>
<br>
Do business in <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on">China</st1:country-region>, host
in <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<br>
<br>
RF.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, <st1:chsdate IsROCDate=3D"False" IsLunarDate=3D"False" =
Day=3D"21" Month=3D"2"
Year=3D"2005" w:st=3D"on">2005-02-21</st1:chsdate> at 20:16 +0800, =
Frederic Muller
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<pre><font size=3D3 face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I have had the same problem with =
China Telecom (in <st1:State
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Guangdong</st1:place></st1:State> =
area though)</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>and complained very =
hard to them. They could not explain the source of =
the</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>problem (we changed =
host and the next day the new host was blocked), even</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>installed a PC in =
our DMZ to check the connection (it once lasted for =
4-5</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>days... hard to =
handle business that way) and for now the problem is =
gone..</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>until it comes =
back.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>So you're not =
alone.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Fred</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-----Original =
Message-----</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: <a
href=3D"mailto:blug-tech-bounces-+qp3TudyjKPvfBIPTTProkB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org">blug-tech-bounces@l=
ist.beijinglug.org</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>[mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:blug-tech-bounces-+qp3TudyjKPvfBIPTTProkB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org">blug-tech-bounces@l=
ist.beijinglug.org</a>] On Behalf Of <st1:PersonName
ProductID=3D"Ben Gunn" w:st=3D"on">Ben =
Gunn</st1:PersonName></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Sent: Monday 21 =
February, 2005 13:53</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>To: <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">'Beijing LUG technical questions and assistance - Publicly =
posted'</st1:PersonName></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Subject: [blug-tech] =
Our server keeps getting blocked</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Hi All,</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I am hoping one of you might be =
able to provide some insight into a problem</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>we are having with =
our server.&nbsp; Our company uses a server which is hosted =
by</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>lunarpages.com in =
the <st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>.&nbsp; Over the last =
several weeks we have been having</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>an unending stream =
of connection problems.&nbsp; Access to our website and =
mail</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>server keeps coming =
up and going down (although it stays down more than =
it</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>is up).&nbsp; =
</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I have been doing some research =
into the issue and this is what I have</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>discovered:</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>1.&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The server name is resolving correctly so I don't =
believe it is a</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>DNS =
issue.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>2. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If I go to our site via a proxy server located =
in a country other</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>than =
<st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
 w:st=3D"on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region> there is no =
problem.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>3. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If I go through an anonymous proxy within =
<st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region> I cannot get to =
the</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>server.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>4.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
The problem is intermittent (sometimes there is no problem, then =
all</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>of a sudden we =
cannot connect, then it will eventually work again)</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Additional =
info:</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>This problem was =
getting so severe that we recently changed hosts (now =
we</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>are using =
lunarpages.com).&nbsp; After the change the problem seemed to have =
been</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>solved (with only =
the occasional connection problem), however, now it</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>appears that the =
same problem is occurring.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I would love to hear any ideas as =
to what the issue may be.&nbsp; If the host was</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>being blocked, why =
would it only work part of the time?&nbsp; Perhaps it is =
a</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>problem with our =
office server, which functions as a router (IP</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>masquerading).&nbsp; =
However, in the past it has been working perfectly and =
the</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>configuration has =
not been altered anytime recently.&nbsp; Furthermore I can =
get</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>to any other website =
just not ours. Frustration extreme!!!!!</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thanks in =
advance,</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Ben</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=CB=CE=CC=E5><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
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