Re: PnP external hard drives

Max Waterman <[email protected]> Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:13:01 +0800
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I use Wiebetech firewire drives - they work well from MS Windows, Apple
Mac OS X, and Linux too (Ubuntu on my TiBook).

Their web site seems to be inaccessible from China for some reason (it
has been for a long time) :

<http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.wiebetech.com/incl=
udes/home/featuredproductx.php?item=3D1>

With USB drives, I would choose one with capacity less than 80GB - I
have found that drives with 80GB or higher draw more power than can be
supplied by USB, and you have to resort to strange combinations of
cables to get power from other ports (keyboard/pcmcia/etc). Very
inconvenient. I guess this is dependant on the drive though - perhaps
newer ones draw less power (I doubt it somehow).

However, firewire also has it's problems as most laptops don't supply
power through the firewire port at all (they have the smaller 4-pin
port). In fact, the only ones I've found with 6-pin firewire ports are
Apple's. If anyone knows of a non-Apple laptop that has a 6-pin firewire
port (or two), I'd like to hear about it.

Of course, you can get an enclosure that has both firewire and usb, so
that's probably a good option, as well as getting one with external
power (most do). Purchasing a pcmcia/cardbus/whatever card, so the drive
has all the power from that port, may be a good idea too.

Just my tuppence worth...

Max.

Chris Flanagan wrote:
> Greetings:
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations for external hard
> drives that play nice with Ubuntu?
>
> I'm leaving Beijing soon & would like to purchase one which i can use
> to save from my work (Windows) desktop but then will subsequently work
> with my Ubuntu (Dapper) laptop.  I know that i want fat32 format, but
> other than that small detail, i'm clueless!
>
> Thanks in advance...........chris
> =20
> Q: How do I tell how hot my coals are?
> A: Hold your hand a few inches over them & count the seconds you are
> able to hold it in place. 6-8 seconds means your coals are between 250
> and 350. 4-5 seconds means your coals are between 350 and 450. 2-3
> means your coals are between 400 and 450. If you can=A2t hold your hand
> over the coals for a second, they are too hot and are above 450 degrees=
.
>
>
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I use Wiebetech firewire drives - they work well from MS Windows, Apple
Mac OS X, and Linux too (Ubuntu on my TiBook).<br>
<br>
Their web site seems to be inaccessible from China for some reason (it
has been for a long time) :<br>
<br>
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
 href=3D"http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.wiebetech.=
com/includes/home/featuredproductx.php?item=3D1">&lt;http://anonymouse.or=
g/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.wiebetech.com/includes/home/featuredpro=
ductx.php?item=3D1&gt;</a><br>
<br>
With USB drives, I would choose one with capacity less than 80GB - I
have
found that drives with 80GB or higher draw more power than can be
supplied by USB, and you have to resort to strange combinations of
cables to get power from other ports (keyboard/pcmcia/etc). Very
inconvenient. I guess this is dependant on the drive though - perhaps
newer ones draw less power (I doubt it somehow).<br>
<br>
However, firewire also has it's problems as most laptops don't supply
power through the firewire port at all (they have the smaller 4-pin
port). In fact, the only ones I've found with 6-pin firewire ports are
Apple's. If anyone knows of a non-Apple laptop that has a 6-pin
firewire port (or two), I'd like to hear about it.<br>
<br>
Of course, you can get an enclosure that has both firewire and usb, so
that's probably a good option, as well as getting one with external
power (most do). Purchasing a pcmcia/cardbus/whatever card, so the
drive has all the power from that port, may be a good idea too.<br>
<br>
Just my tuppence worth...<br>
<br>
Max.<br>
<br>
Chris Flanagan wrote:
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  <br>
Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations for external hard
drives that play nice with Ubuntu? <br>
  <br>
I'm leaving Beijing soon &amp; would like to purchase one which i can
use to save from my work (Windows) desktop but then will subsequently
work with my Ubuntu (Dapper) laptop.=A0 I know that i want fat32 format,
but other than that small detail, i'm clueless!<br>
  <br>
Thanks in advance...........chris<br>
  <div>=A0</div>
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How do I tell how hot my coals are?</span><br
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); font-style: italic;">A:
Hold your hand a few inches over them &amp; count the seconds you are
able to hold it in place. 6-8 seconds means your coals are between 250
and 350. 4-5 seconds means your coals are between 350 and 450. 2-3
means your coals are between 400 and 450. If you can=A2t hold your hand
over the coals for a second, they are too hot and are above 450 degrees.<=
/span>
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