RE: Non - Linux - But good article

Richard Ford <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.org.user-groups.linux.beijing
Organization Creditude
Message-ID <1080350841.3373.98.camel@peachlappy>
Point taken.

My mistake.  I should have at least paraphrased the initial linked
article - as it is quite long and digestion a little time consuming.\

Semantics are as much an issue as syntax and I have failed in the
former.

Just a clarification for anyone else who also may not have RTFA, I do
LOVE China.  I am here by choice, not by circumstance.  My apologies to
anyone who may have got the wrong impression!


Cheers,
RF.





On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 09:14, Graham Brown wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> As an regular /. reader, of course I have not RTFA.
> 
> I also do not want to get into the merits of particular viewpoints, but I 
> have been coming to China since 1983 and have lived here full time since 1997.
> 
> It would be a go idea to understand the practical realities.
> Any group not specifically approved including the BJLUG  is likely to be 
> illegal.
> Whatever private thought an individual might hold about general 
> inadequacies in China, expressing them in a public space is not likely to 
> be helpful.  In that sense this is a public space - it is recorded and 
> capable of official scrutiny.
> 
> There is a big difference between ping results on a particular IP net and 
> general political criticism, even if well founded.
> 
> Chinese are, and have every right to be, proud of their country, their 
> government and their achievements.  The fact that they sometimes criticise 
> it is their option - they are citizens.  It is no different from 
> Australians criticising their own government.  We (Richard and I ) both 
> know that Australians get really irritated if an  American or Brit does the 
> same thing.  Our collective response is likely to be "If you don't like it 
> here - leave".  We have Chinese friends and members and they are likely to 
> have a similar response, even if their politeness hides it.
> 
> China is moving at 100mph - sometimes they get it wrong, or do not plan etc 
> etc.  So what?  They are entitled to do it their way.  We are here for the 
> ride, but we are guests in their country.  As a group, we should behave 
> accordingly.  Privately, is another issue.
> 
> I suggest that we let it drop and move on to something less controversial 
> like our "contact" list :-)
> 
> Graham Brown
> 

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