Re: Discussion: Using LLMs the Right Way: 10/1/2025 7pm Eastern Daylight time

Ivan Sergio Borgonovo said on Sun, 5 Oct 2025 11:54:40 +0200

>On 10/5/25 3:59 AM, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:
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>>> On Oct 4, 2025, at 12:32, Steve Litt <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
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>>> I don't understand the point of the preceding paragraph.  
>> 
>> Perhaps you could get one of them fancy LLMs to explain it to you.  
>
>DONE
>
>This situation in Oregon is highly relevant to Large Language Models 
>(LLMs) and data centers because it highlights the growing **conflict 
>between the massive energy demands of the tech industry, particularly 
>AI, and the capacity and cost of the public power grid.**

[snip the exact and concise answer to my question]

Ivan, thanks for answering my question.

Ideally, I don't think they should ban LLMs and datacenters, but
instead have graduated rates with top rates, for big gross consumers
only, of $10.00/Megawatt. By doing this, big business would think twice
about carpetbagging cheap Oregon electricity, and who knows, maybe it
would give a rate *cut* to small lower and middle class electricity
consuming humans. I think California should do this too. I think every
state should.

Also, look at https://poweroutage.us/electricity-rates and notice that
pretty much ever state charges commercial users less than residential
users. This is a perverse travesty that should be fixed right away.

Now this suggestion will cost me a lot of money, because that MF
Desantis will call it "woke", increase the discounts for large
commercial users, and invite commercial gross consumers to move their
data centers to Florida. But my loss is society's gain, so the right
thing is to charge graduated rates with top consumers paying
exorbitant rates.

SteveT

Steve Litt 

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