Re: Discussion: Using LLMs the Right Way: 10/1/2025 7pm Eastern Daylight time
Les Faby <[email protected]> Thu, 16 Oct 2025 12:30:21 -0700
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--===============2114324088== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000799e1e06414ba676" --000000000000799e1e06414ba676 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oregon is not getting as much rain so hydro power output is probably shrinking. On Sun, Oct 5, 2025, 12:49=E2=80=AFPM Steve Litt <[email protected]= > wrote: > Ivan Sergio Borgonovo said on Sun, 5 Oct 2025 11:54:40 +0200 > > >On 10/5/25 3:59 AM, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On Oct 4, 2025, at 12:32, Steve Litt <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I don't understand the point of the preceding paragraph. > >> > >> Perhaps you could get one of them fancy LLMs to explain it to you. > > > >DONE > > > >This situation in Oregon is highly relevant to Large Language Models > >(LLMs) and data centers because it highlights the growing **conflict > >between the massive energy demands of the tech industry, particularly > >AI, and the capacity and cost of the public power grid.** > > [snip the exact and concise answer to my question] > > Ivan, thanks for answering my question. > > Ideally, I don't think they should ban LLMs and datacenters, but > instead have graduated rates with top rates, for big gross consumers > only, of $10.00/Megawatt. By doing this, big business would think twice > about carpetbagging cheap Oregon electricity, and who knows, maybe it > would give a rate *cut* to small lower and middle class electricity > consuming humans. I think California should do this too. I think every > state should. > > Also, look at https://poweroutage.us/electricity-rates and notice that > pretty much ever state charges commercial users less than residential > users. This is a perverse travesty that should be fixed right away. > > Now this suggestion will cost me a lot of money, because that MF > Desantis will call it "woke", increase the discounts for large > commercial users, and invite commercial gross consumers to move their > data centers to Florida. But my loss is society's gain, so the right > thing is to charge graduated rates with top consumers paying > exorbitant rates. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > > http://444domains.com > > > _______________________________________________ > conspire mailing list > [email protected] > http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire > --000000000000799e1e06414ba676 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">Oregon is not getting as much rain so hydro power output = is probably shrinking.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_conta= iner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 5, 2025, 12:49=E2= =80=AFPM Steve Litt <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">slitt@= troubleshooters.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot= e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">= Ivan Sergio Borgonovo said on Sun, 5 Oct 2025 11:54:40 +0200<br> <br> >On 10/5/25 3:59 AM, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:<br> >> <br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<br> >>> On Oct 4, 2025, at 12:32, Steve Litt <<a href=3D"mailto:sli= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">slitt@troubles= hooters.com</a>><br> >>> wrote:<br> >>><br> >>> I don't understand the point of the preceding paragraph.= =C2=A0 <br> >> <br> >> Perhaps you could get one of them fancy LLMs to explain it to you.= =C2=A0 <br> ><br> >DONE<br> ><br> >This situation in Oregon is highly relevant to Large Language Models <b= r> >(LLMs) and data centers because it highlights the growing **conflict <b= r> >between the massive energy demands of the tech industry, particularly <= br> >AI, and the capacity and cost of the public power grid.**<br> <br> [snip the exact and concise answer to my question]<br> <br> Ivan, thanks for answering my question.<br> <br> Ideally, I don't think they should ban LLMs and datacenters, but<br> instead have graduated rates with top rates, for big gross consumers<br> only, of $10.00/Megawatt. By doing this, big business would think twice<br> about carpetbagging cheap Oregon electricity, and who knows, maybe it<br> would give a rate *cut* to small lower and middle class electricity<br> consuming humans. I think California should do this too. I think every<br> state should.<br> <br> Also, look at <a href=3D"https://poweroutage.us/electricity-rates" rel=3D"n= oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://poweroutage.us/electricity-= rates</a> and notice that<br> pretty much ever state charges commercial users less than residential<br> users. This is a perverse travesty that should be fixed right away.<br> <br> Now this suggestion will cost me a lot of money, because that MF<br> Desantis will call it "woke", increase the discounts for large<br= > commercial users, and invite commercial gross consumers to move their<br> data centers to Florida. But my loss is society's gain, so the right<br= > thing is to charge graduated rates with top consumers paying<br> exorbitant rates.<br> <br> SteveT<br> <br> Steve Litt <br> <br> <a href=3D"http://444domains.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_= blank">http://444domains.com</a><br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> conspire mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer= rer">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire" rel=3D"noreferr= er noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/con= spire</a><br> </blockquote></div> --000000000000799e1e06414ba676-- --===============2114324088== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ conspire mailing list [email protected] http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire --===============2114324088==--