Re: Linux Sucks
Melvin Walters <[email protected]> Mon, 31 Dec 2018 21:40:28 -0700
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--===============1963047219637370123== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-3es5UjLw9G3BNhmvcI1I" --=-3es5UjLw9G3BNhmvcI1I Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I agree with Robin's point but if I may add some: 1/ I was never under the illusion our problems will be solved once so we will be all done. It will takecontinued focus and effort by all those involved. And awareness by us as to what is really going on. 2/ Whether a Company or individual; Only Integrity is Going to Count.[A] Shedding light for people to know what is going on is needed, and public opinion will do the work. Notus. Stay positive, negativity will not help our cause. 3/ Two examples of non or lesser bloatware. How about openBSD OS or Solus Linux?De Raadt's openBSD is lean with the cruft thrown out for security and 10 years ahead of the rest.I want to try it out more when I can make time:) I enjoy taking the boot fast and efficient Budgie Solus Linux Desktop for a spin - stable-current 4.19.12-106that has been shared with other open projects. Also have enjoyed trying out Ubuntu-Budgie So I try to stay balanced and keep smiling at least some of the time in technology. Well that's my less than a nickles worth. So I will hit send before more proof reading. A/ ref: quote by Buckminster Fully - Only Integrity is Going to Count. from talk given Feb 26, 1983(who also coined the phrase < space ship earth >) A Very Happy and Prosperous New Year to All ! On Sun, 2018-12-30 at 14:46 -0500, Richard Carter wrote: > The problem with that presentation was he never used 10 words when > 100 would do. > Robin > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:55 PM John Marshall <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > I also appreciated the Linux Sucks talk given at Linuxfest > > Northwest recently. I share concerns about Linux becoming > > more > > "Microsoft-y" and "Corporate-y" and less "Linux-y". I was > > concerned with Microsoft's take over of GitHub and their > > overwhelming participation in the Open Source Foundation, not > > to > > mention IBM's purchase of Red Hat. I worry a lot about Linux > > these days with so many developers working for and paid by > > major > > corporations. These corporations are going to expect to > > control > > Linux, I believe. "He who pays the piper calls the tune". I > > also > > was alarmed to hear that major Linux conferences are costing > > from > > $1200 to $1800 per person. Only corporate developers are > > going to > > be able to go to these conferences. > > > > > > John > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: > > > > Re: [clug-talk] Why Linux sucks > > > > > > Date: > > Sat, 29 Dec 2018 15:21:23 +0000 > > > > > > From: > > Kevin Young <[email protected]> > > > > > > Reply-To: > > > > CLUG General <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: > > CLUG General <[email protected]>, > > [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linuxfest Northwest is an excellent > > conference held the last weekend in April each year in > > Bellingham, Washington. Attending the conference and > > talks is > > totally free and they always have a great group of > > presenters. I’ve attended the past few years and really > > enjoyed it. The first year I drove out and last year I > > flew > > in to Abbotsford, B.C., rented a car and made the 30 > > minute > > journey south to Bellingham. Attached is a link to their > > conference site if anyone is interested: > > https://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org/conferences/2019 > > > > > > > > > > From: clug-talk > > <[email protected]> on behalf of Greg King > > <[email protected]> > > > > Reply-To: CLUG General <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 2:10 AM > > > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: [clug-talk] Why Linux sucks > > > > > > I > > really enjoyed this Linux fest NW talk about the > > current > > status of Linux and open source. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVHcdgrqbHE > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > Happy > > new year everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > --=-3es5UjLw9G3BNhmvcI1I Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html dir=3D"ltr"><head></head><body style=3D"text-align:left; direction:lt= r;"><div>I agree with Robin's point but if I may add some:</div>= <div><br></div><div>1/ I was never under the illusion our problems will be = solved once so we will be all done. It will take</div><div>continued focus = and effort by all those involved. And awareness by us as to what is really = going on.</div><div><br></div><div>2/ Whether a Company or individual; Only= Integrity is Going to Count.[A]</div><div><br></div><div>Shedding light fo= r people to know what is going on is needed, and public opinion will do the= work. Not</div><div>us. Stay positive, negativity will not help our cause.= </div><div><br></div><div>3/ Two examples of non or lesser bloatware. How a= bout openBSD OS or Solus Linux?</div><div>De Raadt's openBSD is lean with t= he cruft thrown out for security and 10 years ahead of the rest.</div><div>= I want to try it out more when I can make time:)</div><div><br></div><div>I= enjoy taking the boot fast and efficient Budgie Solus Linux Desktop for a = spin - stable-current 4.19.12-106</div><div>that has been shared with other= open projects.</div><div><br></div><div>Also have enjoyed trying out Ubunt= u-Budgie</div><div><br></div><div>So I try to stay balanced and keep smilin= g at least some of the time in technology.</div><div><br></div><div>Well th= at's my less than a nickles worth. So I will hit send before more proof rea= ding.</div><div><br></div><div>A/ ref: quote by Buckminster Fully - Only In= tegrity is Going to Count. from talk given Feb 26, 1983</div><div>(who also= coined the phrase < space ship earth >)</div><div><br></div><div>A V= ery Happy and Prosperous New Year to All !</div><div></div><div><br></div><= div>On Sun, 2018-12-30 at 14:46 -0500, Richard Carter wrote:</div><blockquo= te type=3D"cite" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;= padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo= nt-size:small">The problem with that presentation was he never used 10 word= s when 100 would do. </div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D= "font-size:small">Robin</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir= =3D"ltr">On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:55 PM John Marshall <<a href=3D"mailt= o:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blo= ckquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf s= olid;padding-left:1ex"> =20 =20 =20 <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> <p>Hello Everyone,</p> <p>I also appreciated the Linux Sucks talk given at Linuxfest Northwest recently. I share concerns about Linux becoming more "Microsoft-y" and "Corporate-y" and less "Linux-y". I was concerned with Microsoft's take over of GitHub and their overwhelming participation in the Open Source Foundation, not to mention IBM's purchase of Red Hat. I worry a lot about Linux these days with so many developers working for and paid by major corporations. These corporations are going to expect to control Linux, I believe. "He who pays the piper calls the tune". = I also was alarmed to hear that major Linux conferences are costing from $1200 to $1800 per person. Only corporate developers are going = to be able to go to these conferences.<br> </p> <p>John<br> </p> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------------------------------- <div class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-forward-container"><br> <table class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-email-headers-table" = cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"> <tbody> <tr> <th valign=3D"BASELINE" nowrap=3D"" align=3D"RIGHT">Subject: </th> <td>Re: [clug-talk] Why Linux sucks</td> </tr> <tr> <th valign=3D"BASELINE" nowrap=3D"" align=3D"RIGHT">Date: </th> <td>Sat, 29 Dec 2018 15:21:23 +0000</td> </tr> <tr> <th valign=3D"BASELINE" nowrap=3D"" align=3D"RIGHT">From: </th> <td>Kevin Young <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-txt= -link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><k= [email protected]></a></td> </tr> <tr> <th valign=3D"BASELINE" nowrap=3D"" align=3D"RIGHT">Reply-To: </th> <td>CLUG General <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-tx= t-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><cl= [email protected]></a></td> </tr> <tr> <th valign=3D"BASELINE" nowrap=3D"" align=3D"RIGHT">To: </th> <td>CLUG General <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-tx= t-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><cl= [email protected]></a>, <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-txt-link-abbrevia= ted" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">CalgaryUNIX@c= uug.ab.ca</a> <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-txt-link-rfc2396E= " href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><CalgaryUNIX@= cuug.ab.ca></a></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <br> <br> <div class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Linuxfest Northwest is an excellent conference held the last weekend in April each year in Bellingham, Washington. Attending the conference and talks = is totally free and they always have a great group of presenters. I=E2=80=99ve attended the past few years and re= ally enjoyed it. The first year I drove out and last year I flew in to Abbotsford, B.C., rented a car and made the 30 minute journey south to Bellingham. Attached is a link to their conference site if anyone is interested:</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.linuxfestnorthwest.or= g/conferences/2019" target=3D"_blank">https://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org/co= nferences/2019</a></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <br> </p> <div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none= ;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:bla= ck">From: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">clug-talk <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-txt-link-rfc2396E= " href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><clug-talk= [email protected]></a> on behalf of Greg King <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-txt-link-rfc2396E= " href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><[email protected]></= a><br> <b>Reply-To: </b>CLUG General <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556= 759572846moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D= "_blank"><[email protected]></a><br> <b>Date: </b>Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 2:10 AM<br> <b>To: </b><a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-txt-li= nk-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">"clug-talk= @clug.ca"</a> <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-txt-link-rfc2396E= " href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><[email protected]= ></a>, <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-txt-link-rfc2396E= " href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">"CalgaryUNIX@cuu= g.ab.ca"</a> <a class=3D"gmail-m_-3425457556759572846moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"= href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><CalgaryUNIX@c= uug.ab.ca></a><br> <b>Subject: </b>[clug-talk] Why Linux sucks</span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-f= amily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I really enjoyed this Linux fest NW talk about the current status of Linux and open source.</span></p> </div> <div> <div> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil= y:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> <a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTVHcdgrqbHE" t= arget=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTVHcdgrqbHE</a></span></= p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil= y:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Enjoy!</span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil= y:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Happy new year everyone!</span></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> _______________________________________________<br><br> </blockquote></div> <pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre></blockquote></body></html> --=-3es5UjLw9G3BNhmvcI1I-- --===============1963047219637370123== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying --===============1963047219637370123==--