Re: lenovo thinkpad
Pat Roche <[email protected]> Thu, 16 May 2019 20:54:47 +0000
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--===============0253367614222092223== Content-Language: en-CA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_MWHPR08MB24797B5264446E415460C05B9B0A0MWHPR08MB2479namp_" --_000_MWHPR08MB24797B5264446E415460C05B9B0A0MWHPR08MB2479namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Most, if not all, Lenovo ThinkPads seem to be certified for Linux (Ubuntu, = Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), or both). I know the certification only ap= plies to that version, but I've never had any problems with a later version= either. Lenovo actually maintains two databases of personal systems (lapto= ps, desktops, tablets, etc.) that have been certified for Linux -- one for = relatively recent systems and one for older systems. Here's the current archive: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd031426 And here's the "archive" database: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd500269 Used ThinkPads often offer better value for money than cheap new systems wi= th inferior specs. The big thing to remember when buying used is there sho= uld be a big price difference between the Haswell/post-Haswell Intel Core i= 3, i5 and i7 processors and energy-intensive earlier generations. The fourt= h generation "Haswell" (and later) CPUs provide a much longer battery charg= e. So look for fourth generation or later (a "4" or higher after the i3, i5= or i7) -- for example, an i5-4300U CPU (4th gen) will give much better bat= tery performance than an i5-3xxx. Good luck. ________________________________ From: clug-talk <[email protected]> on behalf of G M <[email protected]= om> Sent: May 16, 2019 9:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [clug-talk] lenovo thinkpad a couple of other options... set it up to dual boot windows and linux or s= etup vbox with what ever linux distro you choose Gary M On 2019-05-16 9:11 a.m., SZEMIR KHANGYI wrote: Depending on the age of your hardware, if it is new enough, the "bios" may = be set to boot EFI only, i may hesitate to add, that it may have "Secure Bo= ot" enabled too. First check that your distro supports EFI boot, then disab= le "Secure boot" for sure. you may leave EFI boot as is. Unless your hardwa= re "bios" supports normal boot, in which case select that. There has been a= lot of dust around efi booting / normal booting and secure boot locking th= e system into one , and only one OS ( Windows of course ). Most modern dist= ros do support EFI and BIOS booting, after you disable secure boot. Oh, and= despite the scary name, you can safely disable secure boot, the gremlins w= on't get your data any faster than they would otherwise do. ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Davis <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thu, 16 May 2019 08:20:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [clug-talk] lenovo thinkpad On 2019-05-16 7:34 a.m., Greg King wrote: You may have to tweak BIOS settings. If you have not done any of this before it might be good to get help from someone who is familiar with the process and the issues that arise. Installing any Linux on laptops seems to always involve a few hassles. I don't know if MemX, Geek squad, or Staples tech do this sort of thing but Linux is pretty popular now so they may do it for a fee. I inquired at my local Best buy about Linux. The answer I got was that they did not deal with Linux at all. pat _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying --_000_MWHPR08MB24797B5264446E415460C05B9B0A0MWHPR08MB2479namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"= > <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bo= ttom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Most, if not all, Lenovo ThinkPads seem to be certified for Linux (Ubuntu, = Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), or both). I know the certification only ap= plies to that version, but I've never had any problems with a later version= either. Lenovo actually maintains two databases of personal systems (laptops, desktops, tablets, etc.) that = have been certified for Linux -- one for relatively recent systems an= d one for older systems.</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Here's the current archive:</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <a href=3D"https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd031426" id=3D"LPNoL= P378219">https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd031426</a><br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> And here's the "archive" database:</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <a href=3D"https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd500269" id=3D"LPNoL= P626329">https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd500269</a></div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Used ThinkPads often offer better value for money than cheap new systems wi= th inferior specs. The big thing to remember when buying used is ther= e should be a big price difference between the Haswell/post-Haswell Intel C= ore i3, i5 and i7 processors and energy-intensive earlier generations. The fourth generation "Haswell" (and later)= CPUs provide a much longer battery charge. So look for fourth generation o= r later (a "4" or higher after the i3, i5 or i7) -- for example, = an i5-4300U CPU (4th gen) will give much better battery performance than an i5-3xxx.</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Good luck.<br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div id=3D"appendonsend"></div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st= yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> clug-talk <clug-ta= [email protected]> on behalf of G M <[email protected]><br> <b>Sent:</b> May 16, 2019 9:47 AM<br> <b>To:</b> [email protected]<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [clug-talk] lenovo thinkpad</font> <div> </div> </div> <div style=3D"background-color:#FFFFFF"> <p>a couple of other options... set it up to dual boot windows and li= nux or setup vbox with what ever linux distro you choose</p> <p>Gary M</p> <div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-05-16 9:11 a.m., SZEMIR KHANGYI wr= ote:<br> </div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"><style> <!-- body {height:100%; color:#000000; font-size:10pt; font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif} --> </style> <div>Depending on the age of your hardware, if it is new enough, the "= bios" may be set to boot EFI only, i may hesitate to add, that it may = have "Secure Boot" enabled too. First check that your distro supp= orts EFI boot, then disable "Secure boot" for sure. you may leave EFI boot as is. Unless your hardware "bios" suppor= ts normal boot, in which case select that. There has been a lot of dust aro= und efi booting / normal booting and secure boot locking the system into on= e , and only one OS ( Windows of course ). Most modern distros do support EFI and BIOS booting, after you disable sec= ure boot. Oh, and despite the scary name, you can safely disable secure boo= t, the gremlins won't get your data any faster than they would otherwise do= . <br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>----- Original Message -----<br> From: Patrick Davis <a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:pee= [email protected]"> <[email protected]></a><br> To: <a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= a">[email protected]</a><br> Sent: Thu, 16 May 2019 08:20:53 -0600 (MDT)<br> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] lenovo thinkpad<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <p><br> </p> <div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-05-16 7:34 a.m., Greg King<br> wrote:</div> <br> <blockquote> <div style=3D""> <div><strong></strong><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>You may have to tweak BIOS settings. If you have not done<br> any of this before it might be good to get help from someone<br> who is familiar with the process and the issues that arise.<br> Installing any Linux on laptops seems to always involve a few<br> hassles. I don't know if MemX, Geek squad, or Staples tech do<br> this sort of thing but Linux is pretty popular now so they may<br> do it for a fee.<br> </div> </div> </blockquote> <p>I inquired at my local Best buy about Linux. The answer I got was<br> that they did not deal with Linux at all.</p> <p>pat<br> </p> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <br> <fieldset class=3D"x_mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <pre class=3D"x_moz-quote-pre">____________________________________________= ___ clug-talk mailing list <a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">c= [email protected]</a> <a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://clug.ca/mailman/listinf= o/clug-talk_clug.ca">http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca</a> Mailing List Guidelines (<a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http:= //clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php">http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php</a>) **Please remove these lines when replying </pre> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html> --_000_MWHPR08MB24797B5264446E415460C05B9B0A0MWHPR08MB2479namp_-- --===============0253367614222092223== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying --===============0253367614222092223==--