Re: Re Lenovo ThinkPads
Lawrence Oshanek <[email protected]> Mon, 27 May 2019 15:04:40 +0000
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Oshanek https://itsfoss.com/get-linux-laptops/?utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium= =3Demail&utm_campaign=3Dantergos_linux_is_dead_battery_optimizer_for_ubuntu= _a_free_linux_course_and_more_linux_stuff&utm_term=3D2019-05-27 [https://i1.wp.com/itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/buy-linux-laptops= .jpeg?fit=3D800%2C450&ssl=3D1]<https://itsfoss.com/get-linux-laptops/?utm_s= ource=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_campaign=3Dantergos_linux_is_dead= _battery_optimizer_for_ubuntu_a_free_linux_course_and_more_linux_stuff&utm_= term=3D2019-05-27> 10 Places to Buy Linux Laptops in 2019 - itsfoss.com<https://itsfoss.com/ge= t-linux-laptops/?utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_campaign=3D= antergos_linux_is_dead_battery_optimizer_for_ubuntu_a_free_linux_course_and= _more_linux_stuff&utm_term=3D2019-05-27> Later Purism released a 13=1B$B!m=1B(B version called Librem 13.Purism also= created a Linux distribution Pure OS keeping privacy and security in mind.= . Pure OS can run on both desktop and mobile devices and it is the default = choice of operating system on its Librem laptops and Librem 5 Linux phone..= Purism gets its components from China, Taiwan, Japan, and the United State= s and builds/assemble them in ... itsfoss.com Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> ________________________________ From: clug-talk <[email protected]> on behalf of John Marshall <joh= [email protected]> Sent: May 16, 2019 5:50 PM To: CLUG Talk Subject: [clug-talk] Re Lenovo ThinkPads Hello All, I use Linux Mint Cinnamon 19.1 on 6 computers. I have used Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.2 on them before. Two others have Windows 7 because there are some specific things I need Windows for. Of the 6 Linux computers, two are Lenovo ThinkPad laptops (1. T420 / 2. T420s). I got both my refurbished ThinkPads from the London Drugs computer department for $350 and $300 respectively. Both work fine. I don=1B$B!G=1B(Bt remember having= any problems installing Linux on these computers. As has been said, ThinkPads are typically Linux friendly. Whenever I try a new Linux distro, I always download the ISO file for it and create a Live Boot USB stick. That way I know in advance how my computer will react to the specific distro. Only then would I actually install the distro. I personally don=1B$B!G=1B(Bt use Oracle VirtualBox (on my Windows 7 comput= er) to test distros fully since I can=1B$B!G=1B(Bt get VirtualBox to recognize the= USB sticks I plug in. Even then, you need to install =1B$B!H=1B(BGuest Additio= ns=1B$B!I=1B(B which may or may not exist for specific Linux distros. I would not expect stores to support Linux because: 1. All new computers they stock come with Windows already on them because of the way Microsoft locks manufacturers into getting Windows cheap if they put Windows on ALL the computers built. 2. Most people are familiar with Windows. Linux would puzzle them. For example, Windows users would not want to get involved with arcane Linux Terminal commands. They want GUIs for everything. 3. There are too many Linux distros for support staff to learn how to set up and configure. Good luck=1B$B!D=1B(B John Marshall _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying --_000_MWHPR2001MB1135AA902D90F758E523E07DC21D0MWHPR2001MB1135_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-2022-= jp"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bo= ttom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Although US based, this link may be of some interest to some of the members= .</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Lawrence A. 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Pure OS can run on both desktop and mobile devices and it is the default = choice of operating system on its Librem laptops and Librem 5 Linux phone.. 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I have used Linux Mint= <br> Cinnamon 18.2 on them before. Two others have Windows 7 because there= <br> are some specific things I need Windows for. Of the 6 Linux computers= , <br> two are Lenovo ThinkPad laptops (1. T420 / 2. T420s). I got both my <= br> refurbished ThinkPads from the London Drugs computer department for $350 <b= r> and $300 respectively. Both work fine. I don=1B$B!G=1B(Bt remem= ber having any <br> problems installing Linux on these computers. As has been said, <br> ThinkPads are typically Linux friendly.<br> <br> Whenever I try a new Linux distro, I always download the ISO file for it <b= r> and create a Live Boot USB stick. That way I know in advance how my <= br> computer will react to the specific distro. Only then would I actuall= y <br> install the distro.<br> <br> I personally don=1B$B!G=1B(Bt use Oracle VirtualBox (on my Windows 7 comput= er) to <br> test distros fully since I can=1B$B!G=1B(Bt get VirtualBox to recognize the= USB <br> sticks I plug in. Even then, you need to install =1B$B!H=1B(BGuest Ad= ditions=1B$B!I=1B(B <br> which may or may not exist for specific Linux distros.<br> <br> I would not expect stores to support Linux because:<br> <br> 1. All new computers they stock come with Windows already on them <br> because of the way Microsoft locks manufacturers into getting Windows <br> cheap if they put Windows on ALL the computers built.<br> 2. Most people are familiar with Windows. Linux would puzzle them.&nb= sp; For <br> example, Windows users would not want to get involved with arcane Linux <br= > Terminal commands. They want GUIs for everything.<br> 3. There are too many Linux distros for support staff to learn how to <br> set up and configure.<br> <br> Good luck=1B$B!D=1B(B<br> <br> John Marshall<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> clug-talk mailing list<br> [email protected]<br> <a href=3D"http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca">http://clug.c= a/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca</a><br> Mailing List Guidelines (<a href=3D"http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php">http:= //clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php</a>)<br> **Please remove these lines when replying<br> </div> </span></font></div> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_MWHPR2001MB1135AA902D90F758E523E07DC21D0MWHPR2001MB1135_-- --===============7877511587479557141== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying --===============7877511587479557141==--