Re: Privacy Concerns with UbuntuPhone

On 23 April 2014 11:28, Worik Stanton <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 22/04/14 17:48, Thomi Richards wrote:
> > Seriously though - you really cannot. You can have the illusion of
> > security, and you can prevent casual snooping. You cannot prevent the
> > sustained interest of a powerful organisation once they make you a
> target.
>
> That is an invalid argument.
>
> I can illustrate with an analogy" I cannot be *totally* safe driving my
> car.  Does not mean that wearing my seatbelt is an illusion of safety.
>
> Security is a process and it has a cost.  The real question is "what
> security can I afford" and is that sufficient?
>
> > If all you care about is prevention of casual snooping, then I think we
> > have larger problems to hand than a closed baseband OS.
>
> Not wanting to put words in Strypy's mouth but I think he is concerned
> with more than that.  The question is can two people establish a covert
> channel of communication that is not accessible to outside observers.
> Either the content nor the fact of the channel being opened.
>
> Clearly if some one follows you around with a high definition long
> distance observation kit, bugs your house etcetera etcetera you cannot.
>
> Also it would seem it is not possible using the cellular network.  That
> would be the conclusion of this thread?
>
> But it is possible in the general case (the TOR project is doing very
> interesting work), and technology for doing it is very interesting and
> very important right now.
>
> I know of no way of doing it that would not make it clear that I was
> communicating some time with some one in a covert manner.  Now that
> would be cool.
>
> W
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