Re: Reasonable deal for pre-ordering Ubuntu tablets

Kathinka <[email protected]> Sat, 2 Apr 2016 00:29:49 +1300
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Martin, do you assume I wrote about "level-headed designers" and know
nothing about what they do?
There's an alternative - our definitions of level headedness may be
 dissimilar.

Kathinka

On 1 April 2016 at 17:27, Martin Kean <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kathinka:
>
>
> > Tough shit if this upsets designer types who want to impose their
> post-verbal art-ahead-of-communication passion on us without providing an
> easy switch on/off to accommodate language people as well as pix-ies.
>
>
> You obviously have no idea about what level-headed designers actually do.
> Design is all about communication ahead of anything else, which is why we
> find great examples of consol design such as this:
>
>
> http://control--panel.com/
>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* DunLUG <[email protected]> on behalf of Kathinka <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, 1 April 2016 5:03 p.m.
> *To:* DunLUG
> *Subject:* Re: [dunlug] Reasonable deal for pre-ordering Ubuntu tablets
>
> Is that Ubuntu the new (well, not really new now but I've avoided it) GUI
> all pictures and scratch'n'sniff?
> I'm  very non-visual and find icons a pita, have to mentally translate
> them into words every time, much prefer menus etc in words so as to save
> time for getting on with whatever I want to use the tool for.  Tough shit
> if this upsets designer types who want to impose their post-verbal
> art-ahead-of-communication passion on us without providing an easy switch
> on/off to accommodate language people as well as pix-ies.
>
> On 30 March 2016 at 18:56, Reece Arnott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Pre-notice notice: I just realised an hour ago that all the DunLUG
>> messages for at least the last month have ended up in Gmail's spam filter.
>> If you get this then you won't be affected but feel free to pass the
>> message on.
>>
>> Two 10.1 inch tablets that come with the mobile version of Ubuntu are
>> available for pre-order.
>> https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition/
>> See http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet/features for some details.
>>
>> There is also a 5 inch smartphone at the same store that has a
>> significantly higher resolution camera for 200 euros:
>> https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition-e5/
>>
>> All say they come with Ubuntu 15.04.
>>
>> Saw this mentioned on slashdot.org, did a bit of poking around and
>> decided to buy the more expensive one (cost of 300 euros is a little under
>> $NZ500 at the moment, pretty much the only difference compared to the 250
>> euro version is screen resolution). As its a pre-order the 10.1 inch tablet
>> comes with a free screen-protector and cover. And as its over 99 euros and
>> is to be delivered to NZ, delivery is free. Shipping mid-April with
>> standard 2 week delivery so I'd expect to get this at the start of May.
>>
>> (Note that this particular web-store probably don't have good security as
>> they sent me a confirmation of my login with my password in the clear. For
>> that reason, I'd suggest that if you decide to buy anything from them, pay
>> using Paypal as then you don't have to give them your credit card details
>> which they can then store insecurely and have them stolen at some point in
>> the future. To change your password on the bq store you need to select to
>> edit your contact details - which only showed my name and email address
>> until I clicked edit which was more than a little non-intuitive.)
>>
>> --
>> "Believing men would act in their own interest was not cynicism, it
>> turned out, but sheerest optimism; in reality men do not meet so high a
>> standard."
>> -- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality (Chapter 84)
>> http://hpmor.com/
>>
>> Reece Arnott
>> Dunedin
>> New Zealand
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> DunLUG mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> http://lists.ethernal.org/listinfo/dunlug
>> DunLUG Wiki - http://dunlug.kallisti.net.nz/
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,=
serif">Martin, do you assume I wrote about &quot;level-headed designers&quo=
t; and know nothing about what they do?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">There&#39;s an alternative - our definit=
ions of level headedness may be =C2=A0dissimilar.</div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">Kathinka</div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 1 April 2016 at 17:27, M=
artin Kean <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">




<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p>Kathinka:</p><span class=3D"">
<p><br>
</p>
<p>&gt;=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:16px">Tough=
 shit if this upsets designer types who want to impose their post-verbal ar=
t-ahead-of-communication passion on us without providing an easy switch on/=
off to accommodate language people as
 well as pix-ies.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:16px"><br>
</span></p>
</span><p><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:16px">You obvi=
ously have no idea about=C2=A0what level-headed=C2=A0designers actually do.=
 Design is all about communication ahead of anything else, which is why we =
find great examples of consol design such as this:</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:16px"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:16px"><a href=3D"http=
://control--panel.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://control--panel.com/</a></s=
pan></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:16px"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:16px">Martin<br>
<br>
</span></p>
<br>
<br>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=
=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> DunLUG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dunlug-bounce=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</=
a>&gt; on behalf of Kathinka &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kathinka.dunediensis@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 1 April 2016 5:03 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> DunLUG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [dunlug] Reasonable deal for pre-ordering Ubuntu tablet=
s</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">Is that Ub=
untu the new (well, not really new now but I&#39;ve avoided it) GUI all pic=
tures and scratch&#39;n&#39;sniff?</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">I&#39;m =
=C2=A0very non-visual and find icons a pita, have to mentally translate the=
m into words every time, much prefer menus etc in words so as to save time =
for getting on with whatever I want to use the
 tool for.=C2=A0 Tough shit if this upsets designer types who want to impos=
e their post-verbal art-ahead-of-communication passion on us without provid=
ing an easy switch on/off to accommodate language people as well as pix-ies=
.</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 30 March 2016 at 18:56, Reece Arnott <span di=
r=3D"ltr">
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">reece.arnot=
[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Pre-notice notice: I just realised an hour ago that all the DunLUG messages=
 for at least the last month have ended up in Gmail&#39;s spam filter. If y=
ou get this then you won&#39;t be affected but feel free to pass the messag=
e on.<br>
<br>
Two 10.1 inch tablets that come with the mobile version of Ubuntu are avail=
able for pre-order.<br>
<a href=3D"https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition/" rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition/</a><br>
See <a href=3D"http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet/features" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">
http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet/features</a> for some details.<br>
<br>
There is also a 5 inch smartphone at the same store that has a significantl=
y higher resolution camera for 200 euros:
<a href=3D"https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition-e5/" rel=3D"noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">
https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition-e5/</a><br>
<br>
All say they come with Ubuntu 15.04.<br>
<br>
Saw this mentioned on <a href=3D"http://slashdot.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">
slashdot.org</a>, did a bit of poking around and decided to buy the more ex=
pensive one (cost of 300 euros is a little under $NZ500 at the moment, pret=
ty much the only difference compared to the 250 euro version is screen reso=
lution). As its a pre-order the
 10.1 inch tablet comes with a free screen-protector and cover. And as its =
over 99 euros and is to be delivered to NZ, delivery is free. Shipping mid-=
April with standard 2 week delivery so I&#39;d expect to get this at the st=
art of May.<br>
<br>
(Note that this particular web-store probably don&#39;t have good security =
as they sent me a confirmation of my login with my password in the clear. F=
or that reason, I&#39;d suggest that if you decide to buy anything from the=
m, pay using Paypal as then you don&#39;t have
 to give them your credit card details which they can then store insecurely=
 and have them stolen at some point in the future. To change your password =
on the bq store you need to select to edit your contact details - which onl=
y showed my name and email address
 until I clicked edit which was more than a little non-intuitive.)<br>
<br>
-- <br>
&quot;Believing men would act in their own interest was not cynicism, it tu=
rned out, but sheerest optimism; in reality men do not meet so high a stand=
ard.&quot;<br>
-- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality (Chapter 84)<br>
<a href=3D"http://hpmor.com/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://h=
pmor.com/</a><br>
<br>
Reece Arnott<br>
Dunedin<br>
New Zealand<br>
<br>
<br>
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 target=3D"_blank">
http://dunlug.kallisti.net.nz/</a></blockquote>
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