Re: is anyone here using the new ubuntu, 11.10?

Mark Foster <[email protected]> Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:04:52 +1300
Newsgroups gmane.org.user-groups.linux.new-zealand.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 12/11/11 00:25, Dagan wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 08:36 +0000, Robin Paulson wrote:
>> i'm having a few issues with the new UI. i wasn't impressed at all with 
>>  unity, so i switched to gnome, which is now v3.
*snip*

>>  any other suggestions to make v3 more like v2?
>  I went through the transition when Fedora moved to Gnome 3 in Fedora
> 15, and found a lot of things didn't work the same - some still not
> fixed in Fedora 16 either, like lack of option to set Terminal to open
> using the "Open Terminal" keybind (you have to manually set some keys
> via CLI)
>
>  My first suggestion - stop hoping GNOME 3 is GNOME 2. It's not, and it
> won't ever be. You can try Linux Mint or move to XFCE, if that is an
> issue - as many appear to have done. Heck some people even started using
> KDE.

As much as this is true, it's also sad.  Making changes such that you
drive your audience away doesn't seem productive!

>
>
>  By the 'System menu', I assume you mean the administrative tools.
> A number of them have been deprecated, and yet to be replaced. GNOME is
> simplifying the controls a user sees, and moving a lot more into the
> config via CLI. The controls they are adding tend to have less options
> in the UI, more options to tweak via DConf etc.

Giant step backwards, if this is true.  People were turned off Linux in
the early days due to the amount of CLI work you had to do to get things
done.  Ubuntu had done a great job at making Linux accessible to those
more comfortable with point-and-click.  I really hope you're not
speaking the party line here, and that instead this is just your opinion.

(An alternative approach would simply be an 'advanced settings' button
within GUI dialogues, meaning the up-front options are simplified, but
the detail is there if you want it.)

I'm still running 10.10 primarily because I wanted to keep using Gnome
2.  I'm put-off Unity and actually considering OpenSUSE as my next
distro move, with the leap to KDE in the process.  I'd be there already,
but the last OpenSUSE I tried didn't like my Lenovo.  There's a newer
release out, and i'm tempted to try it...

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