Re: is anyone here using the new ubuntu, 11.10?

On 12/11/11 12:57, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> On Sat 12 Nov 2011 09:04:52 NZDT +1300, Mark Foster wrote:
>
>> As much as this is true, it's also sad.  Making changes such that you
>> drive your audience away doesn't seem productive!
> Yes, I'm shaking my head too. I call it dumbing down.
>
>> Giant step backwards, if this is true.  People were turned off Linux in
>> the early days due to the amount of CLI work you had to do to get things
>> done.  Ubuntu had done a great job at making Linux accessible to those
>> more comfortable with point-and-click.
> Sorry to disagree. It wasn't Ubuntu that did that, it was a natural
> progression and evolution of the desktops. Ubuntu just took what was
> already there, and has never had anything that the others didn't have
> already - or certainly not back then. (Now it has unity that the others
> don't have, and popular opinion seems to be that this is a good thing.)
>
> Stop implying that Ubuntu was the only one advancing Linux on the
> desktop. It's not true.

Never said they were the only one. Just that they did it.
I'm sure others did it too, or there's no way that the GUI's in other
browsers would be as mature as they are.
What I said remains true, Ubuntu did a good job of making themselves
popular and accessible to people that might not've previously tried Linux.
(Just an opinion...)


> KDE 4 is not the same as 3, but it's reasonably similar to not feel
> totally lost. There is space for frustrations though. The first thing
> to keep in mind is that desktop (and panel) icons are controlled
> tighter, and can be "locked", meaning they can't be changred. The
> unlock is a click away, but you have to be aware of this. Default is
> unlocked. Application icons on the desktop are inside an invisible
> container that can be resized. Unlock everything first. If you want
> different icons per desktop it's easy to turn on, but the containers
> for all-for-one and each individual are all different (you can copy
> the files from under ~/.kde around). As everything else, it's not bug
> free, and to be honest I'm a bit disappointed that there isn't
> anything significantly new in KDE 4 that really makes a difference, as
> opposed to just doing things differently. It's supposed to be
> smal-portable-device ready though. Volker 

This is good advise, thanks.  Not sure if/when i'll actually get around
to trying it... probably whenever it is that my Ubuntu box acts as a
barrier for something i'm trying to achieve (or perhaps when 10.10 goes
out of support).

Mark.

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