Re: Me too plus 'suspend' problems, etc. Re: Hibernate failure

Ubuntu 20.04, Mate DE. I have this issue but haven't tied it to resuming 
from suspend. I'll watch this more closely. The lock-ups come and go and 
sometimes I'll notice apps starting to slow and I'll kill them and that 
avoids the lock-up issue.

"Frequently, upon inexplicably slow resumes from 'suspend', the open 
applications in a session seem to start locking up whereupon the only 
way to get to get everything working again is a hard power-key shutdown 
and a cold reboot."

On 3/12/22 12:32PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote:
>
> Debian 11 with Xfce desktop environment for the most part is a real 
> pleasure.  But 'hibernate' is hopeless and 'suspend' also has 
> significant problems.  New rules added per wiki.debian.org suggestions 
> do not help.  After a cold restart the erratic 'suspend' errors often 
> disappear for a few hours but always come back.  Frequently, upon 
> inexplicably slow resumes from 'suspend', the open applications in a 
> session seem to start locking up whereupon the only way to get to get 
> everything working again is a hard power-key shutdown and a cold reboot.
>
> As an aside, Debian 11 also causes some new problems with an old 
> Windows program I use under Wine, though I've been able to resolve 
> these (annoyingly) by copying over the entire .wine directory from a 
> prior Debian 10 installation.  I experience this issue under both 
> Debian 11 Xfce and Debian 11 KDE environments.
>
> On 3/12/22 08:35, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
>> LeRoy & NMGLugers, 1) I suggest you keep power on overnight. If you 
>> suspend and power fails your ram image of work is lost. You can try 
>> hibernate, but there have been issues with Linux and hibernate. 
>> Hibernate puts the snapshot image of your work on the hard drive, but 
>> unless the resume is set to resume form the correct location you will 
>> have a failure.
>> My routine is to suspend during the day, if I go out or take an hour 
>> off for non-computer work. Over night I switch off after saving work 
>> and closing all apps. Your LXde is fine. I use Xfce4 or Mate, but the 
>> gui desktop is not the issue. I have found Mate much easier to manage 
>> after also finding the "extras" package for it and loading that. 
>> However, that just gives me a richer gui, did not help with suspend.
>> I hope this helps. If not ask more questions. Thank you, Ted P
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 7:21 AM Wayne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     I have often heard that Linus can have problems with hibernation.
>>     Can you just 'Suspend' the system instead? That ssem to be less
>>     problematical, though even that can be iffy, depending on the laptop.
>>
>>
>>     On 3/11/22 8:02 PM, LeRoy Diener wrote:
>>     > Hi NMGLUG folks,
>>     >
>>     > I'm having an issue recently that I hope I can get help with.
>>     > It's on my Debian 11 system, updated.
>>     > Recently, I've had problems when I leave the laptop overnight.
>>     > When I stop, I click on Logout > Suspend, then the screen goes
>>     black and I close the lid. I expect that when I open the lid in
>>     the morning and enter my password, I should be back where I left off.
>>     >
>>     > When I've done this recently, it works sometimes.
>>     > Other times, it crashes after the batteries run out of power in
>>     the middle of the night.
>>     > Other times, it works, but I see a message in the morning "None
>>     of the screen lock tools ran successfully, the screen will not be
>>     locked. Do you still want to suspend the system?"
>>     > Other times, it works, but I see a message in the morning
>>     "Authentication is required to hibernate the system."
>>     >
>>     > I have a setting in Power Manager to hibernate when inactive
>>     for one hour, so that's what I'm focusing on now.
>>     > I found some helpful info in this link
>>     https://askubuntu.com/questions/543921/authentication-required-before-suspend
>>     > I found the file
>>     /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy
>>     > In that file, I found this segment:
>>     > <action id="org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate">
>>     > <description gettext-domain="systemd">Hibernate the
>>     system</description>
>>     > <message gettext-domain="systemd">Authentication is required to
>>     hibernate the system.</message>
>>     > <defaults>
>>     > <allow_any>auth_admin_keep</allow_any>
>>     > <allow_inactive>auth_admin_keep</allow_inactive>
>>     > <allow_active>yes</allow_active>
>>     > </defaults>
>>     > </action>
>>     >
>>     > Other info:
>>     > I usually have the laptop plugged into an external monitor, and
>>     I usually have the power strip (which powers the external monitor
>>     and laptop) turned off overnight.
>>     >
>>     > Any ideas?
>>     >
>>     > Thanks in advance.
>>     > LeRoy
>>     >
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