Re: UUID

Brian O'Keefe <[email protected]> Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:43:53 -0600
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Thanks Paul

That seems pretty simple. Still wonder why the motherboard is in upside 
down and screws not accessible to lift it out. Weird.

I actually cloned one drive to another, larger drive. I've done this 
many times and would just take out the old drive and install the cloned 
drive. I did this as I required more data storage. However, I can't 
remove the factory drive as it's not accessible. If I could I would do 
what I said. Clone the computer's drive to a larger drive, swap them out 
and boot happily away with the larger drive. Changing the UUID made 
sense but I didn't know how to do that.

On 8/10/25 12:23PM, Paul wrote:
> It sounds like you may have cloned one partition to the other? This 
> would explain them having the same uuid. You need to change the uuid 
> of one of the partitions.
>
> Let's say you want to change the uuid of /dev/sdb1. Make sure the 
> partition is not mounted, then use:
>
> `sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/sdb1`
>
> That should do it.
>
> This is untested on my part, so please do all the necessary backing 
> up, etc. before trying.
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 1:20 PM Brian O'Keefe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Hello All
>
>     I'm revisiting an issue I expressed many months (if not years. I
>     have an ASUS laptop in which I wanted to install a 500GB SSD in
>     the vacant bay. I said at the time that the motherboard is up side
>     down so I can't remove the existing drive (a SSD PLUS M.2 NVMe^TM
>     SSD,) and replace with the 500GB SSD drive. I was able to get the
>     regular SSD into the bay and plug it in. It shows up in the BIOS
>     as two separate UUIDs (I have a bootable 313 GB partition and a
>     free space 193 GB partition. When I choose to try and boot the 313
>     GB partition the computer reverts to the drive stick. I checked
>     the UUIs and the 313GB has a different UUID than the internal
>     stick drive but the same as the 193 SSD. So for some reason, even
>     though I change the boot order so the 313GB boots, the computer
>     reverts to the onboard UUID and boots that. I don't know how the
>     193 GB drive got the same UUID but it did.
>
>     When I boot the computer I get the option of booting Ubuntu 20.04
>     but 16.04 is also listed. That is the 313 GB which I was planning
>     to wipe and install 25.04. Perhaps I can wipe it with GParted and
>     try installing 25.04 on it.
>
>     Sorry about the long screed! I'd love to get the 313GB to boot
>     25.04 so I can see if it works on the old cloned 313GB drive with
>     16.04. If that worked I'd have a current back-up (I have one, the
>     unbootable 313GB drive which won't boot). I would then upgrade the
>     313 GB drive after cloning the onboard drive. If the cloned 313GB
>     drive updated then I would have my current mountains of data on
>     the 313GB drive. But if it won't boot now why would it boot later,
>     after all of the work?
>
>     Many thanks if anyone wants to help. If not I completely understand
>
>     Best
>
>     Brian
>
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    <p>Thanks Paul</p>
    <p>That seems pretty simple. Still wonder why the motherboard is in
      upside down and screws not accessible to lift it out. Weird.</p>
    <p>I actually cloned one drive to another, larger drive. I've done
      this many times and would just take out the old drive and install
      the cloned drive. I did this as I required more data storage.
      However, I can't remove the factory drive as it's not accessible.
      If I could I would do what I said. Clone the computer's drive to a
      larger drive, swap them out and boot happily away with the larger
      drive. Changing the UUID made sense but I didn't know how to do
      that.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/10/25 12:23PM, Paul wrote:<br>
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            <div>It sounds like you may have cloned one partition to the
              other? This would explain them having the same uuid. You
              need to change the uuid of one of the partitions. <br>
              <br>
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            Let's say you want to change the uuid of /dev/sdb1. Make
            sure the partition is not mounted, then use:<br>
            <br>
            `sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/sdb1`<br>
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          That should do it. <br>
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        This is untested on my part, so please do all the necessary
        backing up, etc. before trying. </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 1:20 PM
          Brian O'Keefe &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"
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            <p>Hello All</p>
            <p>I'm revisiting an issue I expressed many months (if not
              years. I have an ASUS laptop in which I wanted to install
              a 500GB SSD in the vacant bay. I said at the time that the
              motherboard is up side down so I can't remove the existing
              drive (a <span
style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">SSD
                PLUS M.2 NVMe</span><sup
style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px solid rgb(246,246,246);font-size:12px;line-height:0;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">TM</sup><span
style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><span> </span>SSD,)
                and replace with the 500GB SSD drive. I was able to get
                the regular SSD into the bay and plug it in. It shows up
                in the BIOS as two separate UUIDs (I have a bootable 313
                GB partition and a free space 193 GB partition. When I
                choose to try and boot the 313 GB partition the computer
                reverts to the drive stick. I checked the UUIs and the
                313GB has a different UUID than the internal stick drive
                but the same as the 193 SSD. So for some reason, even
                though I change the boot order so the 313GB boots, the
                computer reverts to the onboard UUID and boots that. I
                don't know how the 193 GB drive got the same UUID but it
                did.</span></p>
            <p><span
style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">When
                I boot the computer I get the option of booting Ubuntu
                20.04 but 16.04 is also listed. That is the 313 GB which
                I was planning to wipe and install 25.04. Perhaps I can
                wipe it with GParted and try installing 25.04 on it.</span></p>
            <p><span
style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Sorry
                about the long screed! I'd love to get the 313GB to boot
                25.04 so I can see if it works on the old cloned 313GB
                drive with 16.04. If that worked I'd have a current
                back-up (I have one, the unbootable 313GB drive which
                won't boot). I would then upgrade the 313 GB drive after
                cloning the onboard drive. If the cloned 313GB drive
                updated then I would have my current mountains of data
                on the 313GB drive. But if it won't boot now why would
                it boot later, after all of the work?</span></p>
            <p><span
style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Many
                thanks if anyone wants to help. If not I completely
                understand</span></p>
            <p><span
style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Best</span></p>
            <p><span
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              </span></p>
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