Re: UUID
Brian O'Keefe <[email protected]> Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:08:53 -0600
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2227687398147563059== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------LhnbY5WD9UIfVaIj002zVgoW" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------LhnbY5WD9UIfVaIj002zVgoW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Model is ASUS F505ZA-DH51 Thanks much Paul! I have followed a disassembly youtube vid and yes, it requires removing the keyboard by removing all the screws from the bottom and running a guitar pick under the surface of the top edge and then the keyboard is removable. I carefully lift and tip the keyboard out, leaving the connectors. Then the mother board is accessible and the show me guy swaps out drives. Where he has a drive, I do not. It's not there. The expansion bay for a 2.5" drive is visible but it's upside down. I had cloned the onboard drive to a 500GB SSD and was able to gently get it, upside down, into the bay and plugged in. It shows up as a bootable drive in the BIOS. But the UUID problem causes the onboard drive to boot regardless of my setting the boot order (which I can discern by the size of the partitions). Obviously the default as it doesn't matter how I set the boot order, I can't boot the expansion bay drive. Obviously the machine wants to boot the factory drive. I think changing the UUID is possibly best. On 8/10/25 03:12PM, Paul wrote: > Do you have a model number for the laptop? If you provide it, we might > find some disassembly guides. > > Have you tried removing the keyboard to see if you have access to the > ssd that way? I know some Asus models did that at one point. I hate > how difficult laptops have gotten to work on. I love my Thinkpad t480. > It's nice and easy to work on. But it's getting a bit long in the > tooth, and accessible hardware is definitely the exception and not the > rule these days. > > > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 2:44 PM Brian O'Keefe <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks Paul > > That seems pretty simple. Still wonder why the motherboard is in > upside down and screws not accessible to lift it out. Weird. > > I actually cloned one drive to another, larger drive. I've done > this many times and would just take out the old drive and install > the cloned drive. I did this as I required more data storage. > However, I can't remove the factory drive as it's not accessible. > If I could I would do what I said. Clone the computer's drive to a > larger drive, swap them out and boot happily away with the larger > drive. Changing the UUID made sense but I didn't know how to do that. > > On 8/10/25 12:23PM, Paul wrote: >> It sounds like you may have cloned one partition to the other? >> This would explain them having the same uuid. You need to change >> the uuid of one of the partitions. >> >> Let's say you want to change the uuid of /dev/sdb1. Make sure the >> partition is not mounted, then use: >> >> `sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/sdb1` >> >> That should do it. >> >> This is untested on my part, so please do all the necessary >> backing up, etc. before trying. >> >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 1:20 PM Brian O'Keefe >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello All >> >> I'm revisiting an issue I expressed many months (if not >> years. I have an ASUS laptop in which I wanted to install a >> 500GB SSD in the vacant bay. I said at the time that the >> motherboard is up side down so I can't remove the existing >> drive (a SSD PLUS M.2 NVMe^TM SSD,) and replace with the >> 500GB SSD drive. I was able to get the regular SSD into the >> bay and plug it in. It shows up in the BIOS as two separate >> UUIDs (I have a bootable 313 GB partition and a free space >> 193 GB partition. When I choose to try and boot the 313 GB >> partition the computer reverts to the drive stick. I checked >> the UUIs and the 313GB has a different UUID than the internal >> stick drive but the same as the 193 SSD. So for some reason, >> even though I change the boot order so the 313GB boots, the >> computer reverts to the onboard UUID and boots that. I don't >> know how the 193 GB drive got the same UUID but it did. >> >> When I boot the computer I get the option of booting Ubuntu >> 20.04 but 16.04 is also listed. That is the 313 GB which I >> was planning to wipe and install 25.04. Perhaps I can wipe it >> with GParted and try installing 25.04 on it. >> >> Sorry about the long screed! I'd love to get the 313GB to >> boot 25.04 so I can see if it works on the old cloned 313GB >> drive with 16.04. If that worked I'd have a current back-up >> (I have one, the unbootable 313GB drive which won't boot). I >> would then upgrade the 313 GB drive after cloning the onboard >> drive. If the cloned 313GB drive updated then I would have my >> current mountains of data on the 313GB drive. But if it won't >> boot now why would it boot later, after all of the work? >> >> Many thanks if anyone wants to help. If not I completely >> understand >> >> Best >> >> Brian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmglug mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >> > -- > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > -- --------------LhnbY5WD9UIfVaIj002zVgoW Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------syxRkWtX4WL0R6N8EIKWG0XR" --------------syxRkWtX4WL0R6N8EIKWG0XR Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> <p>Model is ASUS F505ZA-DH51</p> <p>Thanks much Paul!</p> <p>I have followed a disassembly youtube vid and yes, it requires removing the keyboard by removing all the screws from the bottom and running a guitar pick under the surface of the top edge and then the keyboard is removable. I carefully lift and tip the keyboard out, leaving the connectors. Then the mother board is accessible and the show me guy swaps out drives. Where he has a drive, I do not. It's not there. The expansion bay for a 2.5" drive is visible but it's upside down. I had cloned the onboard drive to a 500GB SSD and was able to gently get it, upside down, into the bay and plugged in. It shows up as a bootable drive in the BIOS. But the UUID problem causes the onboard drive to boot regardless of my setting the boot order (which I can discern by the size of the partitions). Obviously the default as it doesn't matter how I set the boot order, I can't boot the expansion bay drive. Obviously the machine wants to boot the factory drive. I think changing the UUID is possibly best.<br> </p> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/10/25 03:12PM, Paul wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CALezEt5gcKL2mGTaZ73gmybNUprqPty_TGYS-DEWCssPVrk7kg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org"> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <div dir="ltr"> <div>Do you have a model number for the laptop? If you provide it, we might find some disassembly guides. <br> <br> </div> <div>Have you tried removing the keyboard to see if you have access to the ssd that way? I know some Asus models did that at one point. I hate how difficult laptops have gotten to work on. I love my Thinkpad t480. It's nice and easy to work on. But it's getting a bit long in the tooth, and accessible hardware is definitely the exception and not the rule these days.</div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> </div> <br> <div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"> <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 2:44 PM Brian O'Keefe <<a href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div> <p>Thanks Paul</p> <p>That seems pretty simple. Still wonder why the motherboard is in upside down and screws not accessible to lift it out. Weird.</p> <p>I actually cloned one drive to another, larger drive. I've done this many times and would just take out the old drive and install the cloned drive. I did this as I required more data storage. However, I can't remove the factory drive as it's not accessible. If I could I would do what I said. Clone the computer's drive to a larger drive, swap them out and boot happily away with the larger drive. Changing the UUID made sense but I didn't know how to do that.<br> </p> <div>On 8/10/25 12:23PM, Paul wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div> <div> <div>It sounds like you may have cloned one partition to the other? This would explain them having the same uuid. You need to change the uuid of one of the partitions. <br> <br> </div> Let's say you want to change the uuid of /dev/sdb1. Make sure the partition is not mounted, then use:<br> <br> `sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/sdb1`<br> <br> </div> That should do it. <br> <br> </div> This is untested on my part, so please do all the necessary backing up, etc. before trying. </div> <br> <div class="gmail_quote"> <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 1:20 PM Brian O'Keefe <<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div> <p>Hello All</p> <p>I'm revisiting an issue I expressed many months (if not years. I have an ASUS laptop in which I wanted to install a 500GB SSD in the vacant bay. I said at the time that the motherboard is up side down so I can't remove the existing drive (a <span style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">SSD PLUS M.2 NVMe</span><sup style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px solid rgb(246,246,246);font-size:12px;line-height:0;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">TM</sup><span style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><span> </span>SSD,) and replace with the 500GB SSD drive. I was able to get the regular SSD into the bay and plug it in. It shows up in the BIOS as two separate UUIDs (I have a bootable 313 GB partition and a free space 193 GB partition. When I choose to try and boot the 313 GB partition the computer reverts to the drive stick. I checked the UUIs and the 313GB has a different UUID than the internal stick drive but the same as the 193 SSD. So for some reason, even though I change the boot order so the 313GB boots, the computer reverts to the onboard UUID and boots that. I don't know how the 193 GB drive got the same UUID but it did.</span></p> <p><span style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">When I boot the computer I get the option of booting Ubuntu 20.04 but 16.04 is also listed. That is the 313 GB which I was planning to wipe and install 25.04. Perhaps I can wipe it with GParted and try installing 25.04 on it.</span></p> <p><span style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Sorry about the long screed! I'd love to get the 313GB to boot 25.04 so I can see if it works on the old cloned 313GB drive with 16.04. If that worked I'd have a current back-up (I have one, the unbootable 313GB drive which won't boot). I would then upgrade the 313 GB drive after cloning the onboard drive. If the cloned 313GB drive updated then I would have my current mountains of data on the 313GB drive. But if it won't boot now why would it boot later, after all of the work?</span></p> <p><span style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Many thanks if anyone wants to help. If not I completely understand</span></p> <p><span style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Best</span></p> <p><span style="color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Pilat,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Brian<br> </span></p> <div><img src="cid:[email protected]" class="" border="0"></div> </div> 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