Re: ComputerChips magazine

Joshua Schmidlkofer <[email protected]> Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:14:50 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.org.user-groups.linux.pdxlug
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Nathan Olberding wrote:

>Wow... as an outsider, this thread has turned hillarious.
>
>As a Macintosh Lisa owner and founder of the PDXLUG (Portland Lisa
>Users Group, est. 1988), I'm offended by everyone's infringement on my
>name. Insensitive clods...
>
>  
>
 Oh NO!  More CONFUSION.  Imagine, brining a Mac LISA in.  Linux doesn't 
even run on it.  Well, I will spend some time wringing my hands, k?

>So let me get this straight...
>
>~1994: PLUG (Portland Linux/Unix Group) is started. It's a fairly formal group.
>  
>
Actually, they began (I think) as Portland Linux Users Group, but 
eventually the BSDers and others felt excluded so a consensus was 
reached - They became the Portland Linux/Unix Group.

>~2001: PLUG claims their name with the state.
>  
>

Then came the dark times, when website changes led to the exposition of 
peoples dirty laundry on mailing lists.  Godwins observation led the 
fearsome traffic the a mailing list now polluted with non-Linux/Unix 
related debate and flames.  People griped.  People whined.  Some people 
formed a low traffic safe list, with an as-yet unused domain name.   It 
sort of blossomed into "Hey let's meet.".  That is pretty much the 
beginning of THIS thread. [Since this all merely continues the saga of 
hurt feelings and spilt milk.] 

>~1/2003: PDXLUG mailing list is started, soon after developing in to a
>separate, less formal group, using the name "Portland Linux User
>Group."
>~7/2003: PLUG claims PDXLUG's name with the state. Granted, it was a
>terribly unoriginal name, and anyone could've seen this coming, but
>hindsight's 20/20. Squabbling ensues.
>  
>
Regardless, we make concessions.  NAMELY we highlight the fact that our 
name (since we NEVER really picked one) is PDXLUG.  We are a Portland 
Linux users group.  So Robby and Matt changed the website to reflect our 
now chosen name (since we HAD to do something to appease the traffic 
generators from PLUG.) 

>~7/2005: Squabbling persists. Fortunately, it sounds pretty friendly,
>and in my experience, it's something "Penguinistas" aren't averse to.
>
>Damn, is it really worth the confusion? There are ~60 posts in this
>thread. I've read each word of each post- something I don't think I've
>ever done with any thread of any kind of this length. *Finally*, I
>*think* I understand the difference between the two groups. Please
>correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>And which one is it that Ron Jeremy goes to?
>
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>

OMG Russ is going to have a field day with this.  He will highlight the 
confusion here, and fail to take any responsibility for it at all.  He 
will claim that if we never left PLUG, that this would never happen.  I 
would point out that if we never left the jungle, we never would have 
had this problem either.  However, that begs the question, of should we 
have ever left the sea?


However, the crux is:

  www.plug.org is Provo Linux Users Group - Causing confusion because of 
the initials.
  www.pdxlinux.org PLUG: Portland Linux/Unix Group - Angels of mercy in 
a confusing world. (And upset they only registered one name)
  www.pdxlug.org PDXLUG, A Portland Linux Users Group - Demons of 
hatred, spawning confusion.

   Now I don't think that the demon caricature has actually been used, 
but it seems a bit implied.   Few of these threads have actually been 
Godwin'd.

Oh, and *we* have Ron Jeremy.  =P

js

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