Re: xinitrc follies

Carla Schroder wrote:
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> 
> Hmm. Yeah, you're right. I'm not crazy about using a display manager, because 
> they get in my way, and don't provide a way to log out of X to the console. 
> Maybe scripting something using xinit would be a cleaner way to begin.

Have fun scripting a better startx. I'm afraid that I won't be too much 
help there.  However, I'm not sure I entirely understand your complaint 
with a login manager (which I assume you're referring to, ie, xdm or 
gdm, etc.).  I realize that generally they start at boot and when you 
log out of your X session then it takes you back to the login manager. 
However, I've always bee able to get to a real console via 
ctrl-alt-f[1-6].  Once there, if you really don't want the login manager 
to run, you can always stop the service.  In gentoo, all you do is 
/etc/init.d/xdm stop.  I'm sure it's almost exactly the same for other 
distros too.  With that said, if you still find that too cumbersome, 
have fun writing your startx :)

-John