Re: debate

Hi fooler,

Do you have a suggestion on how we as a linux community, or better yet 
as people with no expertise when it comes to nuclear physics, can 
contribute?

On 3/26/15 12:00, fooler mail wrote:
> hi dan,
>
> this is the reason why i said in my other post that focusing on
> renewable energy is a complete waste of time because it is not
> sustainable... instead people must focus and accelerate on clean
> nuclear energy...
>
> with clean nuclear energy.. it translates to abundant energy (or
> electricity)... this translates further to...
>
> 1) with abundant energy.. it creates more food
> 2) with abundant energy.. it creates more water
> 3) with abundant energy.. it creates more advance in technology...
>
> fooler.
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Danny Ching <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I think the disparity in the debate is about timelines. From where I'm
>> sitting, both sides are correct.
>>
>> Thorium obviously will become the de facto energy source in the future. But
>> for now, while we wait for the tech to become commercially available, solar
>> might be the best stop gap solution.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:04 AM Kelsey Hartigan Go
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Obet and I don't have a couple of billion dollars.  So like Obet, I will
>>> wait until Thorium development kit is available in stores.
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2015 9:13 AM, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> my question is do you have the expertise to experiment if i give you
>>>> where to find thorium? i will let nuclear scientist do the experiments
>>>> and not you for your own safety.. sure they will attack with the cost
>>>> as the same as they attack the cost of renewable energy before... it
>>>> took more than a trillion dollars for the research of a cellphone and
>>>> most of the users just use for selfie and post it in their facebook..
>>>> its just a couple of billion of dollars for the development of
>>>> thorium...
>>>>
>>>> fooler.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Kelsey Hartigan Go
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> You can buy solar panels in cdr-king. Where can you buy Thorium in the
>>>>> Philippines if I want to experiment with it?
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way do they come with radiation protection? After you bombard it
>>>>> with
>>>>> neutrons to make it fuel ready, it will be difficult to handle.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case I don't think we'll see Thorium as a renewable energy
>>>>> anytime
>>>>> soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a11907/is-the-superfuel-thorium-riskier-than-we-thought-14821644/
>>>>> --
>>>>> "When a technology is in some difficulty, and nuclear technology has
>>>>> been
>>>>> shocked by the Fukushima accident in Japan, people search for a magic
>>>>> solution, but there is no silver bullet," he says. "The difference in
>>>>> the
>>>>> state of development of thorium versus other sources of fuel is so vast
>>>>> and
>>>>> the cost of developing the technology is so high, it's really
>>>>> questionable
>>>>> today whether it's worthwhile to spend a lot of money on the
>>>>> development of
>>>>> thorium."
>>>>>
>>>>> i was trying to suggest for you to look at thorium or clean nuclear
>>>>> energy but your arrogance starts at this statement:
>>>>>
>>>>> "I'll look at thorium once I can buy it from a store (or Raon...)."
>>>>>
>>>>> fooler.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Roberto Verzola <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry, I sent this as private mail but it seems to have ended up on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> list. My apologies to Mr. fooler. This was not meant to be for public
>>>>>> consumption. Forgive an old man for his mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obet
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:59:06 +0800
>>>>>> Roberto Verzola <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your comment. It is hard to feel welcome to plug if fools
>>>>>>> who are only after winning debates and nothing else are allowed to
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> away browbeating others with insults and false expertise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was my mistake, I took the bait. I should have known better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've ran lists and boards decades ago, and I still do today. I won't
>>>>>>> allow such rude behavior on lists I really care about, even  if I'm
>>>>>>> not the moderator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But of course each list has its own culture and practices. If plug
>>>>>>> prefers it that way, that's also fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obet
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 04:45:52 +0800
>>>>>>> Gabriel Briones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Roberto,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Welcome to PLUG :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> debate is always part of the community and I don't think it will
>>>>>>>> change. I've been to this list long enough to witness these :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And I alway admire people like you who initiates an action to cool
>>>>>>>> down the topic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No idea is a bad idea, some ideas are just better, but just like
>>>>>>>> what we're always saying, if what you're doing makes you happy, the
>>>>>>>> rest is irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Gabriel
>>>>>>>> On 24 Mar 2015 19:27, "Roberto Verzola" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I apologize to all for trigerring an off-topic debate. All I
>>>>>>>>> wanted was to reach old friends I knew were still on this list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Guys, just email me privately. (And google "NO BRAINER" after
>>>>>>>>> Holy
>>>>>>>>> Week.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings to all pluggers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obet Verzola
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