Re: Devuan
Josef Grosch <[email protected]>
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On 07/07/2016 10:51 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Josef Grosch ([email protected]): > >> I've recently been playing around with Devuan. Does anyone have any >> experience with Devuan ? Good or bad. > > No direct experience, but I've been following the project with interest > from its beginning. > >> At work I've spent the last week dealing with systemd insistence on >> not playing well with other, that and the fact that LinuxMint 18 has >> been released with systemd as the default is causing me to look around >> for a Debian based Linux that has not been infected with systemd. > > Depending on the extent of your devotion to GNOME, MATE, Cinnamon, KDE, > and/or Razor-qt[1], and to NetworkManager, the best answer might be > 'Debian'. > > I've investigated using a Debian 8 'Jessie' scratch system, and written > up my results here: > > http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/openrc-conversion.html > > Page includes tested, detailed instructions for replacing systemd with > OpenRC and making sure systemd cannot return. And, as clarified in my > footnotes, you should also be able to use the same method to adopt any > of the _other_ inits packaged by Debian: sysvinit, upstart, or runit. > > I just happen to really like OpenRC, which is BSD-derived. > > > [1] Those DE's big metapackages depend on systemd because one or two > DE packages comprising the metapackage do. Therefore, you can install > _substantively_ all of the DE by installing its constituent packages > (and still not pull in systemd), just not the whole kitchen sink. A quick test shows that Rick's instructions work pretty well. I've tried it with Debian 8.5 as a server, ie. no X or Desktop Environment. OpenRC seems to work pretty well. Thanks Rick. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer | [email protected] | to Redwood Heaven | Berkeley, Ca.