Offlist spam
Rick Moen <rick-IyCrq+X4Fdq2oZ/[email protected]> Tue, 11 Sep 2018 14:52:29 -0700
| Newsgroups | gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug |
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| Organization | If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already. |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
<hat='listadmin'> Some folks have sent me private mail expressing concern that, if they post to [email protected], lately they receive maybe a dozen spams over the following couple of days that look at first glance like mailing list replies. A couple of such folks have charged (in private mail to me) that our Mailman is permitting spam _via_ the mailing list. That is not the case. If you look attentively at the flurry of spams you receive, you'll note that it's completely offlist traffic. I've seen no reason to think our mailing list server's being compromised. The annoying trick being used doesn't _need_ server compromise. You might ask: Can't I find out who's subscribed (apparently) with the sole aim of sending offlist junkmail to persons who're posting? Answer: I've so far found no visible connection between the non-subscribed spam-sending entity and any specific subscriber. (Of course, there are also other ways to detect posting activity, such as parsing additions to our public archive.) If anyone wants to shoulder that task and thinks he/she might be better at it, go to town. However, I'll note that making this sort of malicious activity functionally impossible to track down on a public mailing list is pretty easy. You might ask: What's up with this? My best guess: It's a clever evolution in spammer methods, because in 2018 the Internet's coin of the realm is user engagement. If you barrage with spam a user who has provably just sent mail to a public medium, and give it the surface appearance of a response within that medium, you make it much more likely your Internet noise will rise above the rest of the Internet noise hitting the user. Meanwhile, this is yet another reason to dislike suddenly unexplained offlist responses to public threads, and it might be wise to make antispam software treat such received mail as suspect. </hat>