[Menai-LUG] RE: Menai Digest, Vol 24, Issue 2

"tom kirkham" <[email protected]> Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:07:21 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.org.user-groups.linux.uk.menai
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Hi,

I can make it back most weekends if you fancy planning a meeting, and I am about on the the 21st. If there is interest we could plan a get together for that day at the University or on a Saturday maybe then TJ could make it.

Tom

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> 1. Re: Re: Mandrake 9.2 installation problem (and meetings/UWB)

> (Rhys Jones)

> 2. Re: Re: Mandrake 9.2 installation problem (and meetings/UWB)

> (Kevin Donnelly)

> 3. Re: Firefox & Mandrake installation (Kevin Donnelly)

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>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:11:03 +0000

>From: Rhys Jones <[email protected]>

>Subject: Re: [Menai-LUG] Re: Mandrake 9.2 installation problem (and

> meetings/UWB)

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>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:00:12 +0000, Kevin Donnelly <[email protected]> wrote:

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> > > Meetings/UWB:

> > > BTW, when do you guys meet? I'd be interested in coming some time.

> >

> > Good question. I gave up on meetings last year, and a couple of the most

> > faithful attendees (TJ, Tom) are now at gainful employment in the South of

> > England. But we probably should have one ... some time ...

>

>I've recently subscribed to this list because I've started a job at

>University of Wales Bangor, on quite an interesting project to develop

>free speech technology for Welsh.

>http://www.bangor.ac.uk/ar/cb/wispr.php

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>Aside from that, I'm still involved with the Welsh GNOME translation

>efforts, and I know Kevin through those channels (haia Kevin). Though

>I work largely remotely for now, I will be in the area for one week a

>month, and would be delighted to meet you all.

>

>Hwyl am y tro

>Rhys

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>http://cysyllta.blogspot.com/

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>Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:05:02 +0000

>From: Kevin Donnelly <[email protected]>

>Subject: Re: [Menai-LUG] Re: Mandrake 9.2 installation problem (and

> meetings/UWB)

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>On Tuesday 08 Mar 2005 22:11, Rhys Jones wrote:

> > I've recently subscribed to this list because I've started a job at

> > University of Wales Bangor, on quite an interesting project to develop

> > free speech technology for Welsh.

> > http://www.bangor.ac.uk/ar/cb/wispr.php

>

>Good luck, and welcome! KDE has just added a TTS app:

>http://accessibility.kde.org/developer/kttsd/index.php

>The main issue in developing that for Welsh would be setting up the phoneme

>rules and recording the voices.

>

> > Aside from that, I'm still involved with the Welsh GNOME translation

> > efforts, and I know Kevin through those channels (haia Kevin). Though

> > I work largely remotely for now, I will be in the area for one week a

> > month, and would be delighted to meet you all.

>

>Perhaps we should try and organise a meeting if we could decide on a place and

>time. Joe, others? Any views?

>

>--

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>Pob hwyl / Best wishes

>

>Kevin Donnelly

>

>www.kyfieithu.co.uk - Meddalwedd Rhydd yn Gymraeg

>www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD!

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>Message: 3

>Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:55:13 +0000

>From: Kevin Donnelly <[email protected]>

>Subject: Re: [Menai-LUG] Firefox & Mandrake installation

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>On Friday 04 Mar 2005 08:46, Llywelyn Owen wrote:

> > I've been away working for a few days so hope you don't think I had lost

> > interest by not replying. My progress so far is thus, I have Mandrake 9.0

> > up and running and seeing the internet but not other computers. I'm hoping

> > to have a play around with it this weekend and maybe download other

> > suggested distros such as Xandros, Debian etc to play with those.

>

>If I were you, I would pick one distro, and stick with it for 6 months,

>learning about how it does things. Only then would I start comparing other

>distros - as it stands, you have no criteria to compare them against, and

>looking at several will (a) be confusing, and (b) take away time from

>actually using Linux, as opposed to looking at it.

>

>This month's Linux Magazine had a Ubuntu DVD on the front, and this month's

>Linux Format had a SUSE 9.2 on the front. Both of these are more recent than

>Mandrake 9, and I would urge you to move up to the most recent distro you can

>get. If you want to stick to Mandrake, 10.1 was on a covermount at

>Christmas, and if you like I can send you that.

>

>Debian is good, but you do need to spend a bit of time finding your way around

>it, and it can sometimes require a bit of low-level work. Xandros (which I

>have never managed to get installed, since it likes none of my video cards)

>looks easy to get to grips with, especially for a Windows refugee, but you

>will pay for that later - much of the KDE desktop has been specially hacked,

>and it may not work properly with non-Xandros stuff.

>

> > Other evaluation distros I've used give me instant access to Windows

> > networks, how do I set this up on Mandrake? I think I have Samba installed,

> > control panel has a LISa setup option under LAN browsing which suggests in

> > a dialogue that Samba or an equivalent is running. I usually try to keep

> > 192.168.0.1-10 (255.255.255.0) available for house computers/network

> > printer/adsl router(with hardware firewall). After running the Guided LISa

> > setup nothing seems to have changed/appeared that would give me access.

>

>I don't really have any MicrosoftWindows machines I need to connect to any

>more, but when I did (several years ago now) I could never get LISa to work -

>all it did was eat CPU cycles until you killed it. I eventually did get

>browsing working with LinNeighbourhood, but I'm not sure that that's being

>developed any more.

>

>Paul Finegan posted a rather nice little howto for Samba on the Northwales LUG

>list:

>http://www.fineogs.co.uk/linux_samba_setup.pdf

>You might go through that just to ensure your setup is OK. Also, do not

>underestimate the fragility of MicrosoftWindows networking. One of my most

>embarassing moments was at a MenaiLUG meeting two years ago, where I was

>demonstrating Samba. I set it all up here, tested MicrosoftWindows->Linux,

>and vice versa, and all was working fine. I took the machines in, set them

>up, and MicrosoftWindows took a hissy fit and wouldn't work - I could ping

>the MicrosoftWindows box, and vice versa, but higher-level networking was

>just kaputt. This is one of the issues with MicrosoftWindows networking in

>an office environment - it will sometimes cease working for inscrutable

>reasons.

>

>Mind you, if all you need to do is transfer files to and from the

>MicrosoftWindows box, you could use FTP, or set up an SSH server on

>MicrosoftWindows (eg http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/cygwin-sshd.html).

>Recent KDE releases have the fish protocol built in, whereby all you do is

>open Konqueror, type fish://<ip address> into the location bar, enter your

>SSH password, and there you are. (Remember that writing to an NTFS drive is

>not recommended as yet - it would be better to use a FAT partition on the

>MicrosoftWindows box as a staging area.)

>

> > As an aside the CymruX evaluation CD is great at accessing data on Windows

> > partitions when they go belly-up and is now my sole emergency boot disk for

> > windows. I've been asked for copies simply for this reason alone...

>

>Great! There is a new version half-done, but it may be discarded in favour of

>one based on SUSE instead of Knoppix. (See what happens when your Debian

>influence is no longer around, Thorben?)

>

> > As for Firefox and browsers in general, I use sync2it.com to automatically

> > synchronise/store/backup bookmarks via the web, and have done so for a few

> > years. The latest addon works well with IE and Firefox but only on Windows.

> > Does anyone know of a product (doesn't have to be free) which will do the

> > same between Linux and Windows Firefox installations?

>

>I'm afraid I don't (though others may). The big thing I have about bookmarks

>is that they don't really allow you to give any context, so if you have 10

>pages from The Register, for instance, you can't usually guess what they're

>individually about unless you visit them. I therefore tend to use a wiki or

>something similar, preferably on one machine in the LAN or on a website,

>mainly because it can be accessed from anywhere, and I can add a snippet from

>the page itself to give some idea of content. But that is not as "click and

>go" as you want, I suspect.

>

>--

>

>Pob hwyl / Best wishes

>

>Kevin Donnelly

>

>www.kyfieithu.co.uk - Meddalwedd Rhydd yn Gymraeg

>www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD!

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