Re: Masquerading and NAT

Carl Karsten <[email protected]> Thu, 19 May 2011 16:51:48 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.org.user-groups.luni.tech
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You seem hyper focused on the nat ting.  Your 2nd and 3rd questions
are written as if you know the answer to the first.

I think you should open up to it maybe being something else.

You should also answer the questions we ask.

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Carey Tyler Schug
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Recently, starting at noon Friday (a suspicious time) my ISP (Comcast)
> connection did not work when I went through my IPCOP firewall/router/NAT,
> but did work when I connected one computer directly to the cable modem.
> Well, it would work, but was throttled to such a low data rate, that I could
> not get beyond maybe the Google search page.  Ping and traceroute worked as
> far as the target firewall.
>
> The first support person I talked to asked if I could connect directly,
> without my "wireless router", making me suspect he knew something.
> Subsequent calls were stonewalled, other than to try to sell me premium
> support.
>
> Sometime between yesterday and today everything was back to normal.  I
> changed nothing in my network Friday through today.
>
> I had a similar experience years ago when they broke the pinhole for DHCP to
> acquire IP leases.  The denied any problem and eventually it was fixed, thus
> reporting no customer down time.
>
> But clearly, something is different about the TCP/IP coming our of the NAT
> router than coming directly from a PC, I lack the skills to understand my
> web searches and find out what that difference is.
>
> I found this page on masquerading
>
> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ipmasq-background2.1.html
>
> which made it sound like the process included in those instructions was
> different than used in a typical NAT router, specifically:
>
> MASQ allows a set of machines to invisibly access the Internet via the MASQ
> gateway. To other machines on the Internet, the outgoing traffic will appear
> to be from the IP MASQ Linux server itself. In addition to the added
> functionality, IP Masquerade provides the foundation to create a HEAVILY
> secured networking environment. With a well built firewall, breaking the
> security of a well configured masquerading system and internal LAN should be
> considerably difficult to accomplish.
>
> However, much later, I realized that story seems to be dated 2005, so
> perhaps it was "new" back then but now an ISP can recognize the forwarded
> traffic.
>
> The answer to any of these questions could be a web page, web archive, or
> another forum where I might find the answer.
>
> Question 1:
>
> What is different about the internet side of a NAT router that makes it
> possible for traffic to be throttled?
>
> Question 2
>
> Is there a form of IP Masquerading that would escape that scrutiny?
>
> Question 3:
>
> Is there a firewall distribution that would appear to be a single computer
> to an ISP?
>
>
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