Re: Making yet another run at a secure, redundant, distributed backup system
Jody Harris <[email protected]> Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:11:34 -0700
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--===============1092505556== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ed3d4eee552049b6e1e70 --0016364ed3d4eee552049b6e1e70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's actually an interesting idea..... Even thought we have a general rule against lurkers, several of the developers have been encouraged to eves drop on our conversation to see how their product is being used in the wild. Posting that question to the VolunteerGrid2 list might get you an answer, but posting it to the tahoe-dev list would have a better chance. Because a redistribution of shares algorithm is not in place, the pre-load you did would probably remain on the machines you "data partied" with until either redistribution was implemented, or there was some node loss among the original storage nodes. It is an interesting thought. jody ---- - Think carefully. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Gabriel Ortiz <[email protected]> wrote: > They sound totally reasonable and my first worry- that nodes were > going to be of less-than-usable size was quickly assuaged. Is there > any facility for offline data transfer? It seems that if we had a lot > of people locally who wanted to participate, it would be kind of nice > to have a data transfer party to get a baseline data set shared over > fast local connections. > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Jody Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > > Great! Did you read the rules posted? What did you think of them? > > jody > > ---- > > - Think carefully. > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Gabriel Ortiz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Sounds interesting. I sent a subscription request to the mailing list. > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Jody Harris <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > I've brought this up several times in the past. I've actually > attempted > >> > to > >> > establish a grid and had it fail last year, however.... > >> > I'm still interested in a secure, redundant, distributed backup > system, > >> > and > >> > of the systems out there, Tahoe-LAFS (http://tahoe-lafs.org) seems to > be > >> > the > >> > one that's making the most progress. > >> > VolunteerGrid2 has been initiated, and we have established some > >> > guidelines > >> > and have some nodes online. If you're interested, you can read about > the > >> > grid background on our wiki at http://bigpig.org/ > >> > jody > >> > ---- > >> > - Think carefully. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > NMLUG mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NMLUG mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NMLUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMLUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug > --0016364ed3d4eee552049b6e1e70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's actually an interesting idea..... Even thought we have a general= rule against lurkers, several of the developers have been encouraged to ev= es drop on our conversation to see how their product is being used in the w= ild. Posting that question to the VolunteerGrid2 list might get you an answ= er, but posting it to the tahoe-dev list would have a better chance.<div> <br></div><div>Because a redistribution of shares algorithm is not in place= , the pre-load you did would probably remain on the machines you "data= partied" with until either redistribution was=A0implemented, or there= was some node loss among the original storage nodes.</div> <div><br></div><div>It is an interesting thought.</div><div><br></div><div>= jody<br clear=3D"all">----<br>- Think carefully.<br> <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Gabriel= Ortiz <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">gabe@si= gnalnine.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty= le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> They sound totally reasonable and my first worry- that nodes were<br> going to be of less-than-usable size was quickly assuaged. Is there<br> any facility for offline data transfer? It seems that if we had a lot<br> of people locally who wanted to participate, it would be kind of nice<br> to have a data transfer party to get a baseline data set shared over<br> fast local connections.<br> <div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Jody Harris <<a href=3D"mailto:jharris@h= arrisdev.com">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > Great! Did you read the rules posted? What did you think of them?<br> > jody<br> > ----<br> > - Think carefully.<br> ><br> ><br> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Gabriel Ortiz <<a href=3D"mailto:ga= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >> Sounds interesting. I sent a subscription request to the mailing l= ist.<br> >><br> >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Jody Harris <<a href=3D"mailto:= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> >> > I've brought this up several times in the past. I've = actually attempted<br> >> > to<br> >> > establish a grid and had it fail last year, however....<br> >> > I'm still interested in a secure, redundant, distributed = backup system,<br> >> > and<br> >> > of the systems out there, Tahoe-LAFS (<a href=3D"http://tahoe= -lafs.org" target=3D"_blank">http://tahoe-lafs.org</a>) seems to be<br> >> > the<br> >> > one that's making the most progress.<br> >> > VolunteerGrid2 has been initiated, and we have established so= me<br> >> > guidelines<br> >> > and have some nodes online. If you're interested, you can= read about the<br> >> > grid background on our wiki at <a href=3D"http://bigpig.org/"= target=3D"_blank">http://bigpig.org/</a><br> >> > jody<br> >> > ----<br> >> > - Think carefully.<br> >> ><br> >> > _______________________________________________<br> >> > NMLUG mailing list<br> >> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> >> > <a href=3D"http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug= " target=3D"_blank">http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug</a><= br> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> NMLUG mailing list<br> >> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> >> <a href=3D"http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug" tar= get=3D"_blank">http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug</a><br> ><br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > NMLUG mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > <a href=3D"http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug" target= =3D"_blank">http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug</a><br> ><br> ><br> _______________________________________________<br> NMLUG mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug" target=3D"_b= lank">http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> --0016364ed3d4eee552049b6e1e70-- --===============1092505556== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ NMLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.b9.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmlug --===============1092505556==--