Re: Juglist Digest, Vol 56, Issue 8

Karen Collins <[email protected]> Thu, 13 May 2010 18:04:49 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.org.user-groups.trijug.juglist
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I've done 2 small web apps with jruby and rails that my team uses internally
as tools.

My office mate is currently migrating a ruby on rails app that our external
users work with
to jruby and the latest stable gems.

It tends to be so long between times when I work with jruby that I"m forever
forgetting and
relearning it.


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>   1. So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala, Groovy,
>      Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc? (Phillip Rhodes)
>   2. Re: So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala, Groovy,
>      Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc? (Michael Kimsal)
>   3. Re: So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala, Groovy,
>      Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc? (Chris Bredesen)
>   4. Re: So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala, Groovy,
>      Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc? (Robert Dale)
>   5. Re: So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala, Groovy,
>      Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc? (Phillip Rhodes)
>   6. Re: Hack night? (Phillip Rhodes)
>   7. Re: So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala, Groovy,
>      Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc? (Phillip Rhodes)
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> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:16:49 -0400
> From: Phillip Rhodes <[email protected]>
> To: "Triangle Java User's Group" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Juglist] So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala,
>        Groovy, Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc?
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> Does out JUG constituency have any users of the "alternate JVM languages?"
> I'd especially be interested to know if there are any other clojure or
> scala
> fans here, as I'm planning to start putting some effort into both before
> long.  Doing a lot of work with Groovy / Grails at the moment, FWIW.
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> Phil
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> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:19:31 -0400
> From: Michael Kimsal <[email protected]>
> To: Phillip Rhodes <[email protected]>
> Cc: Triangle Java User's Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Juglist] So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala,
>        Groovy, Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc?
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> I'm doing work with Grails.  That's probably to be expected, but I wanted
> to
> throw that out anyway :)
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> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Phillip Rhodes
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > Does out JUG constituency have any users of the "alternate JVM
> languages?"
> > I'd especially be interested to know if there are any other clojure or
> scala
> > fans here, as I'm planning to start putting some effort into both before
> > long.  Doing a lot of work with Groovy / Grails at the moment, FWIW.
> >
> >
> > Phil
> >
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> --
> Michael Kimsal
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> http://groovymag.com - for groovy developers
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> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:20:44 -0400
> From: Chris Bredesen <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Juglist] So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala,
>        Groovy, Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc?
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> On 05/13/2010 03:16 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote:
> > Does out JUG constituency have any users of the "alternate JVM
> > languages?"  I'd especially be interested to know if there are any other
> > clojure or scala fans here, as I'm planning to start putting some effort
> > into both before long.  Doing a lot of work with Groovy / Grails at the
> > moment, FWIW.
>
> I've been looking for an excuse to write some Scala.  Lisp doesn't float
> my boat that much so I haven't had a real hankering to use Clojure much...
>
> If we could come up with a mini project in some social setting like a
> hack night, I might be up for it.
>
> -CB
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:28:07 -0400
> From: Robert Dale <[email protected]>
> To: Phillip Rhodes <[email protected]>
> Cc: Triangle Java User's Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Juglist] So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala,
>        Groovy, Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc?
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> I've written some scripts in scala, but it's been hard to convince
> anyone to use it at work in some official capacity.
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Phillip Rhodes
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Does out JUG constituency have any users of the "alternate JVM
> languages?"
> > I'd especially be interested to know if there are any other clojure or
> scala
> > fans here, as I'm planning to start putting some effort into both before
> > long.? Doing a lot of work with Groovy / Grails at the moment, FWIW.
> >
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Juglist mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Robert Dale
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:43:34 -0400
> From: Phillip Rhodes <[email protected]>
> To: "Triangle Java User's Group" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Juglist] So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala,
>        Groovy, Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc?
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> That would be cool.  Do you have an itch to scratch, that might make a good
> use for Scala?  I mean, we could always do one of the "hello worlds" of
> projects (eg, a web 2.0 to-do list or a twitter clone) but it might be
> cooler to do something that somebody actually wants to work on.  Most of
> the
> stuff I think I *might* have a use for Scala for - in the near future -
> would be back-end services like graph processing, etc.  Not sure if anybody
> else would find that kind of thing interesting...
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Chris Bredesen <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > On 05/13/2010 03:16 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote:
> >
> >> Does out JUG constituency have any users of the "alternate JVM
> >> languages?"  I'd especially be interested to know if there are any other
> >> clojure or scala fans here, as I'm planning to start putting some effort
> >> into both before long.  Doing a lot of work with Groovy / Grails at the
> >> moment, FWIW.
> >>
> >
> > I've been looking for an excuse to write some Scala.  Lisp doesn't float
> my
> > boat that much so I haven't had a real hankering to use Clojure much...
> >
> > If we could come up with a mini project in some social setting like a
> hack
> > night, I might be up for it.
> >
> > -CB
> >
> >
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> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:44:30 -0400
> From: Phillip Rhodes <[email protected]>
> To: "Triangle Java User's Group" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Juglist] Hack night?
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> Dagnabit, where the Scala people, the Clojure people, the Groovy folks, the
> Beanshell hackers, the Jython and JRuby punks, the Rhino crowd....
>
>
> Phil
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Fred Medlin <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Nah. Me and Kimsal were pretty much the only Java people coming out on a
> > regular basis, so we bailed. The meetup is available if you want to start
> it
> > up, Mr. Semantic Web nominee.  :)
> >
> > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Phillip Rhodes <
> [email protected]
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Anybody still doing the JVM Hack Night thing?  If so, what's the
> schedule
> >> these days?  Location?
> >>
> >> If not, anybody want to restart the idea?
> >>
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
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> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 17:00:06 -0400
> From: Phillip Rhodes <[email protected]>
> To: Chris Bredesen <[email protected]>,      "Triangle Java User's
>        Group" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Juglist] So, out of curiosity.. who here IS using Scala,
>        Groovy, Clojure, Jython, JRuby, Beanshell, Rhino, Nice, etc?
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> Well... doing a webapp and pulling in something like Lift would probably be
> OK.  Yeah, it means learning a framework as well, but I think having a nice
> well-known problem / domain would make things more interesting.   The one
> Grails book "Grails In Action" uses a Twitter-like app as it's tutorial
> app... we could do something similar to that, just in Scala.
>
> Anybody up for doing something like this, and learn some Scala?
>
>
> Phil
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Chris Bredesen <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > I can see two pitfalls to doing such a hack night with no prior "state":
> >
> > 1. We get wrapped up in learning a framework instead of the language.
> > 2. We get wrapped up in defining the problem instead of implementation.
> >
> > So I guess we mitigate #1 by sticking to something that is more
> algorithmic
> > and not like a full-on web application.  We could mitigate #2 by
> reinventing
> > a blog, Twitter, chat or something ultra-well-known. No bickering about
> > requirements or functionality :)
> >
> > What say you?
> >
> >
> > On 05/13/2010 04:42 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote:
> >
> >> That would be cool.  Do you have an itch to scratch, that might make a
> >> good use for Scala?  I mean, we could always do one of the "hello
> >> worlds" of projects (eg, a web 2.0 to-do list or a twitter clone) but it
> >> might be cooler to do something that somebody actually wants to work
> >> on.  Most of the stuff I think I *might* have a use for Scala for - in
> >> the near future - would be back-end services like graph processing,
> >> etc.  Not sure if anybody else would find that kind of thing
> >> interesting...
> >>
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Chris Bredesen <[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>    On 05/13/2010 03:16 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote:
> >>
> >>        Does out JUG constituency have any users of the "alternate JVM
> >>        languages?"  I'd especially be interested to know if there are
> >>        any other
> >>        clojure or scala fans here, as I'm planning to start putting
> >>        some effort
> >>        into both before long.  Doing a lot of work with Groovy / Grails
> >>        at the
> >>        moment, FWIW.
> >>
> >>
> >>    I've been looking for an excuse to write some Scala.  Lisp doesn't
> >>    float my boat that much so I haven't had a real hankering to use
> >>    Clojure much...
> >>
> >>    If we could come up with a mini project in some social setting like
> >>    a hack night, I might be up for it.
> >>
> >>    -CB
> >>
> >>
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