Re: What is a master's degree?
Tim Jowers <[email protected]> Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:43:04 -0400
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Good discussion. I actually worked in a company in 1996 who had exactly this scenario with a guy from Ireland. The deal was he needed to fudge it to get a higher pay on the H1 scale. Sounds like India follows the same denotation for "Masters" as does the USA. Good to know. Maybe the world is becoming more homogenized. Tim On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Conrad F. D'Cruz, PMP <conrad.dcruz-QgKjmwvqNIVWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote: > Tim, > > Sounds like that resume is using creative word play and also the HR > pre-screening of resumes failed. > > Most colleges and universities in Europe and India have a web site (assuming > they are real educational institutions) and list their degree programs and > requirements for graduation. A Google search would have either found the > institution or lack thereof (i.e fake certificate). > > Anywhere across the globe ... a Bachelor of Science (BS or BSc) stands for > between 3-4 years of undergraduate education ... Master of Science (MS or > MSc) stands for a minimum of 2 years post graduate work. Most US colleges > which offer both degrees in the same department allow you to get a Master > degree in 1 year if you were a continuing student from their BS program and > completed the pre-reqs for the Masters degree during your undergrad program. > > The Masters and Bachelors degree in the Arts also follow this same format. I > suppose it will be relatively easy to identify if someone with an MA in > interpretive dance and no Java experience is applying for a Java job (but I > don't think that is the situation here). > > When in doubt you can always check the diploma that goes with the degree. > If it has spelling errors or ink smudges ... you should either suspect that > it is a fake ... or (ahem) the administrators did not do quality control > before graduation day ... > http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/21/mass-grads-diplomas-with-errors-get-replaced/ > > Now granted there are Master Certificates (diplomas) issued by US colleges! > Those are certifications and not degrees... and can easily be recognized as > such from the diploma or the transcripts. > > --Conrad > > On 9/27/2011 7:26 AM, Tim Jowers wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> We recently hired someone who's resume' said "Master's degree" but >> looking at their resume they only had 2 years of college TOTAL. i >> asked my co-worker about it and he said he saw this difference in >> naming in Europe. That the European calls a 2 year degree a Master's >> degree. In the USA we call this an Associate's degree. I have for >> years wondered how people who claimed to have masters seemed to be >> missing much of the basic fundamentals of computer science... because >> they didn't even have a junior or senior year of college, much less a >> graduate education. So, I now realize Europe and India use the word >> 'masters' to mean 'associates'; do any other countries or regions also >> have this confusion? >> >> Thanks! >> Tim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Juglist mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org >> > > -- > Conrad F. D'Cruz, MS, MCBM, PMP > Consultant > Netswirl Inc. > 405 Averroe Dr., > Apex, NC 27502 > URL: http://www.netswirl.com/ > Land: (919) 363-7785 > Fax: (919) 363-3587 > Email: conrad.dcruz-QgKjmwvqNIVWk0Htik3J/[email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > Juglist mailing list > [email protected] > http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org >