Re: accessibility toolbar
caroline <[email protected]> Wed, 20 May 2020 14:46:39 -0400
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--000000000000af12f505a618d172 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wonder if they felt that having the toolbar would free them from having things like contrast baked in? I've been trying to twist the arms of folks to do this and some thought it meant they would be liberated from thinking about wcag and we're disappointed when I said no. On another note that free shipping message sliding by at the top, has the odd effect of making me feel queasy. On Wed, May 20, 2020, 2:19 PM Steve Green <[email protected]> wrote: > Also, the colour contrast of the focus indication in the toolbar violates > SC 1.4.11. > > > > There are actually some nice tools in there, like the screen ruler and > screen mask, but some don=E2=80=99t always work properly, such as the con= trols for > changing the text and background colours. > > > > We and most of the rest of the accessibility community are generally > opposed to tools like this, but at least it=E2=80=99s cheap compared with= most > others, so it=E2=80=99s not taking away much budget that could be better = spent on > other things. > > > > Steve Green > > Managing Director > > Test Partners Ltd > > > > > > *From:* Annie Heckel <[email protected]> > *Sent:* 20 May 2020 19:01 > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: accessibility toolbar > > > > Even without really investigating the toolbar much, I had to laugh when > simply opening it caused the page to create a failure of WCAG 1.4.10: > Reflow. > > > > -Annie H. > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:40 AM Char Easter <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Any thoughts on this accessibility toolbar? It appears on the site, > https://farberwarecookware.com/ > > > > The tool is authored by, > https://hikeorders.com/accessibility/main-accessibility-features/#accessi= bility-tools > > > > Thanks, > > > > *Char Easter* > > UX Designer at The Seattle Times > > p: 206.464.2945 > > e: [email protected] > > m: 206.779.2427 > > > > > > > -- > > Annie Heckel > > > > Lead Accessibility Auditor > > Online ADA <https://onlineada.com/> > --000000000000af12f505a618d172 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">I wonder if they felt that having the toolbar would free = them from having things like contrast baked in?=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br>= </div><div dir=3D"auto">I've been trying to twist the arms of folks to = do this and some thought it meant they would be liberated from thinking abo= ut wcag and we're disappointed when I said no.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"a= uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">On another note that free shipping message= sliding by at the top, has the odd effect of making me feel queasy.</div><= /div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O= n Wed, May 20, 2020, 2:19 PM Steve Green <<a href=3D"mailto:steve.green@= testpartners.co.uk">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div>= <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"> <div class=3D"m_-7524211712099017537WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Also, the colour contrast of the focus indicat= ion in the toolbar violates SC 1.4.11.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>There are actually some nice tools in there, l= ike the screen ruler and screen mask, but some don=E2=80=99t always work pr= operly, such as the controls for changing the text and background colours.<= u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>We and most of the rest of the accessibility c= ommunity are generally opposed to tools like this, but at least it=E2=80=99= s cheap compared with most others, so it=E2=80=99s not taking away much bud= get that could be better spent on other things.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Steve Green<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Managing Director<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Test Partners Ltd<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang= =3D"EN-US"> Annie Heckel <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> <br> <b>Sent:</b> 20 May 2020 19:01<br> <b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no= referrer">[email protected]</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: accessibility toolbar<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Even without really investigating the toolbar much, = I had to laugh when simply opening it caused the page to create a failure o= f WCAG 1.4.10: Reflow.<u></u><u></u></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">-Annie H.<u></u><u></u></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:40 AM Char Easter <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferre= r">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i= n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Any thoughts on this accessibil= ity toolbar? <span style=3D"color:black">It appears on the site, <a href=3D"https://farb= erwarecookware.com/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"> https://farberwarecookware.com/</a></span><u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</s= pan><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">The tool = is authored by, </span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://hikeorders.com/accessibility= /main-accessibility-features/#accessibility-tools" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D= "noreferrer">https://hikeorders.com/accessibility/main-accessibility-featur= es/#accessibility-tools</a><u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</s= pan><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p= > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;co= lor:black">Char Easter</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span>= </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color= :black">UX Designer at The Seattle Times</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>= <u></u></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">p: 206.464.2945</span><spa= n lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">e:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">ceaster@seat= tletimes.com</a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-= family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">m: 206.779.2427</span><spa= n lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"all"> <u></u><u></u></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Annie Heckel<u></u><u></u></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Lead Accessibility Auditor<u></u><u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://onlineada.com/" target=3D"_blank"= rel=3D"noreferrer">Online ADA</a><u></u><u></u></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> --000000000000af12f505a618d172--