Re: accessibility toolbar

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Steve i agree with you. I should clarify that I am not twisting arms for
the use of a third-party tool. Im asking for our teams to create some
switches of our own while stressing that it doesn't free us from ensuring
that accessibility is baked in. =F0=9F=98=81 I have so many reservations ar=
ound third
party tools and haven't seen any successfully execute to meet our needs.


On Wed, May 20, 2020, 3:04 PM Steve Green <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You need to be careful when making broad statements to the effect that th=
e
> tool does not help achieve WCAG conformance (I appreciate that=E2=80=99s =
not quite
> what you were saying). For instance, WCAG SC 2.4.7 says =E2=80=9CAny keyb=
oard
> operable user interface has a mode of operation where the keyboard focus
> indicator is visible.=E2=80=9D If the website does not have a focus indic=
ator but
> the toolbar has a feature that adds one, then the success criterion is me=
t.
>
>
>
> In principle, the same applies to other success criteria, although this i=
s
> dependent on the tool itself and its method identification and invocation
> being accessible.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* caroline <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* 20 May 2020 19:47
> *To:* Steve Green <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: accessibility toolbar
>
>
>
> I wonder if they felt that having the toolbar would free them from having
> things like contrast baked in?
>
>
>
> I've been trying to twist the arms of folks to do this and some thought i=
t
> meant they would be liberated from thinking about wcag and we're
> disappointed when I said no.
>
>
>
> On another note that free shipping message sliding by at the top, has the
> odd effect of making me feel queasy.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020, 2:19 PM Steve Green <[email protected]=
>
> wrote:
>
> Also, the colour contrast of the focus indication in the toolbar violates
> SC 1.4.11.
>
>
>
> There are actually some nice tools in there, like the screen ruler and
> screen mask, but some don=E2=80=99t always work properly, such as the con=
trols for
> changing the text and background colours.
>
>
>
> We and most of the rest of the accessibility community are generally
> opposed to tools like this, but at least it=E2=80=99s cheap compared with=
 most
> others, so it=E2=80=99s not taking away much budget that could be better =
spent on
> other things.
>
>
>
> Steve Green
>
> Managing Director
>
> Test Partners Ltd
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Annie Heckel <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* 20 May 2020 19:01
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: accessibility toolbar
>
>
>
> Even without really investigating the toolbar much, I had to laugh when
> simply opening it caused the page to create a failure of WCAG 1.4.10:
> Reflow.
>
>
>
> -Annie H.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:40 AM Char Easter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Any thoughts on this accessibility toolbar? It appears on the site,
> https://farberwarecookware.com/
>
>
>
> The tool is authored by,
> https://hikeorders.com/accessibility/main-accessibility-features/#accessi=
bility-tools
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> *Char Easter*
>
> UX Designer at The Seattle Times
>
> p: 206.464.2945
>
> e: [email protected]
>
> m: 206.779.2427
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Annie Heckel
>
>
>
> Lead Accessibility Auditor
>
> Online ADA <https://onlineada.com/>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Steve i agree with you. I should clarify that I am not tw=
isting arms for the use of a third-party tool. Im asking for our teams to c=
reate some switches of our own while stressing that it doesn&#39;t free us =
from ensuring that accessibility is baked in. =F0=9F=98=81 I have so many r=
eservations around third party tools and haven&#39;t seen any successfully =
execute to meet our needs.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 20,=
 2020, 3:04 PM Steve Green &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
o.uk">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"m_911936915107833347WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>You need to be careful when making broad state=
ments to the effect that the tool does not help achieve WCAG conformance (I=
 appreciate that=E2=80=99s not quite what you were saying). For instance, W=
CAG SC
 2.4.7 says =E2=80=9CAny keyboard operable user interface has a mode of ope=
ration where the keyboard focus indicator is visible.=E2=80=9D If the websi=
te does not have a focus indicator but the toolbar has a feature that adds =
one, then the success criterion is met.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>In principle, the same applies to other succes=
s criteria, although this is dependent on the tool itself and its method id=
entification and invocation being accessible.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Steve<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> caroline &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 May 2020 19:47<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Green &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&g=
t;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
referrer">[email protected]</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: accessibility toolbar<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I wonder if they felt that having the toolbar would =
free them from having things like contrast baked in?=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p=
>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;ve been trying to twist the arms of folks to d=
o this and some thought it meant they would be liberated from thinking abou=
t wcag and we&#39;re disappointed when I said no.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On another note that free shipping message sliding b=
y at the top, has the odd effect of making me feel queasy.<u></u><u></u></p=
>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, May 20, 2020, 2:19 PM Steve Green &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Also, the colour contrast of the focus indication in=
 the toolbar violates SC 1.4.11.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">There are actually some nice tools in there, like th=
e screen ruler and screen mask, but some don=E2=80=99t always work properly=
, such as the controls for changing the text and background
 colours.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We and most of the rest of the accessibility communi=
ty are generally opposed to tools like this, but at least it=E2=80=99s chea=
p compared with most others, so it=E2=80=99s not taking away much
 budget that could be better spent on other things.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Steve Green<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Managing Director<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Test Partners Ltd<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Annie Heckel &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 May 2020 19:01<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
referrer">[email protected]</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: accessibility toolbar</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Even without really investigating the toolbar much, =
I had to laugh when simply opening it caused the page to create a failure o=
f WCAG 1.4.10: Reflow.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">-Annie H.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:40 AM Char Easter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferre=
r">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-=
bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Any thoughts on this accessibil=
ity toolbar?
<span style=3D"color:black">It appears on the site, <a href=3D"https://farb=
erwarecookware.com/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">
https://farberwarecookware.com/</a></span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</s=
pan><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">The tool =
is authored by,
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://hikeorders.com/accessibility=
/main-accessibility-features/#accessibility-tools" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">https://hikeorders.com/accessibility/main-accessibility-featur=
es/#accessibility-tools</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</s=
pan><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks,</span><u></u><u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;co=
lor:black">Char Easter</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black">UX Designer at The Seattle Times</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">p: 206.464.2945</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">e:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">ceaster@seat=
tletimes.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">m: 206.779.2427</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Annie Heckel<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Lead Accessibility Auditor<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://onlineada.com/" target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer">Online ADA</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
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