Re: Proposal for updated ATAG 2.0 Exit Criteria
Alastair Campbell <[email protected]> Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:54:58 +0100
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--_000_D155A676237CCacampbellnomensacom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alex, "For the thirteen ATAG 2.0 success criteria that are dependent on WCAG 2.0 = [3] for their levels, each ATAG 2.0 success criterion must be implemented f= or two WCAG 2.0 success criteria at each level: A, AA, and AAA. These six W= CAG 2.0 success criteria are a sampling of the requirements of WCAG (e.g. t= ext alternatives for non-text content, keyboard accessibility, sufficient c= ontrast)." For the each of the WCAG referencing criteria, pick two WCAG SCs at A, AA, = and AAA. That makes 6 things to test for each of the 13 ATAG2 SCs (78), rather than = 793 (13 * 61) for testing all of WCAG 13 times. Does that help? Kind regards, -Alastair From: "Alex Li (LCA)" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:04 To: "Alex Li (LCA)" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Jan Ri= chards <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected]<= mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: RE: Proposal for updated ATAG 2.0 Exit Criteria Resent-From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Resent-Date: Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:05 Can somebody answer the question? From: Alex Li (LCA) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:41 AM To: Richards, Jan; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Proposal for updated ATAG 2.0 Exit Criteria I have a clarifying question. I think I understand everything until I read= the following. "These six WCAG 2.0 success criteria are a sampling of the requirements of = WCAG (e.g. text alternatives for non-text content, keyboard accessibility, = sufficient contrast)." Can somebody explain to me what the sentence is for? -----Original Message----- From: Richards, Jan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:08 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Proposal for updated ATAG 2.0 Exit Criteria Just a reminder to all AUWG members: Please help ATAG 2.0 to move through = CR by sending a message signalling whether or not you agree with the Exit C= riteria proposal below. Thanks Tim and Alastair for responding already. PROPOSAL: Updated proposal to replace the current ATAG 2.0 Exit Criteria (http://www.= w3.org/TR/ATAG20/#exit). Notes: - The wording borrows from HTML5 (http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/p= ublic-permissive-exit-criteria.html) - The section: "Success criteria referencing WCAG 2.0 for priorities" is ta= ken from existing approved Exit Criteria. ---------------------- For this specification to be advanced to Proposed Recommendation, there mus= t be at least two independent implementations of features that meet each su= ccess criterion. Each of these features may be implemented by a different s= et of products and there is no requirement that all features be implemented= by a single product. *Independent authoring tools* are tools by different developers that do not share (or derive from) the sa= me source code for the relevant feature(s). Sections of code that have no b= earing on the implementation of this standard are exempt from this requirem= ent. The authoring tools must be a shipping product or other publicly avail= able version. Experimental implementations, specifically designed to pass t= he test suite and not intended for normal usage, are not permitted. *Implemented* refers to situations in which a success criterion is applicable to a given = authoring tool and the authoring tool meets the success criterion. This is = in contrast to situations in which a success criterion is not applicable. *Success criteria referencing WCAG 2.0 for priorities* <THIS SECTION COPIED= FROM EXISTING APPROVED EXIT CRITERIA> For the thirteen ATAG 2.0 success cr= iteria that are dependent on WCAG 2.0 [3] for their levels, each ATAG 2.0 s= uccess criterion must be implemented for two WCAG 2.0 success criteria at e= ach level: A, AA, and AAA. These six WCAG 2.0 success criteria are a sampli= ng of the requirements of WCAG (e.g. text alternatives for non-text content= , keyboard accessibility, sufficient contrast). ----------------------- Cheers, Jan (MR) JAN RICHARDS PROJECT MANAGER INCLUSIVE DESIGN RESEARCH CENTRE (IDRC) OCAD UNIVERSITY T 416 977 6000 x3957 F 416 977 9844 E [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> --_000_D155A676237CCacampbellnomensacom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode:= space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style=3D"color: rgb(0,= 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Hi Alex,</div><= div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-si= ze: 14px;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibr= i, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">"For the thirteen ATAG 2.0 success criteri= a that are dependent on WCAG 2.0 [3] for their levels, each ATAG 2.0 succes= s criterion must be implemented for two WCAG 2.0 success criteria at each l= evel: A, AA, and AAA. These six WCAG 2.0 success criteria are a sampling of= the requirements of WCAG (e.g. text alternatives for non-text content, key= board accessibility, sufficient contrast)."</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0= , 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div= style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size:= 14px;">For the each of the WCAG referencing criteria, pick two WCAG SCs at= A, AA, and AAA. </div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:= Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(= 0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">That makes 6 = things to test for each of the 13 ATAG2 SCs (78), rather than 793 (13 * 61)= for testing all of WCAG 13 times.</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style=3D= "color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">D= oes that help?</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri= , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0)= ; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Kind regards,</div><d= iv style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-siz= e: 14px;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri= , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">-Alastair</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, = 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div><= br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-seri= f; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><span id=3D"OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style=3D"c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><di= v style=3D"font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:blac= k; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0i= n; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BO= RDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style=3D"font-weight:bold"= >From: </span> "Alex Li (LCA)" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">= [email protected]</a>><br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span= > Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:04<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </s= pan> "Alex Li (LCA)" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">alli@microso= ft.com</a>>, Jan Richards <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">jric= [email protected]</a>>, "<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">w3c-wai-au@w3= .org</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>>= ;<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> RE: Proposal for upd= ated ATAG 2.0 Exit Criteria<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Resent-From= : </span> <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>>= ;<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Resent-Date: </span> Thursday, 16 Apr= il 2015 17:05<br></div><div><br></div><div xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft= -com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"ur= n:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.co= m/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta http= -equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; 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<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><b>Subje= ct:</b> RE: Proposal for updated ATAG 2.0 Exit Criteria<o:p></o:p></span></= p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3D"= MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif= ;">I have a clarifying question. I think I understand everything unti= l I read the following. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font= -size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p= ></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-fam= ily: Calibri, sans-serif;">"These six WCAG 2.0 success criteria are a sampl= ing of the requirements of WCAG (e.g. text alternatives for non-text conten= t, keyboard accessibility, sufficient contrast)."<o:p></o:p></span></p></di= v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: = Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms= oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"= >Can somebody explain to me what the sentence is for?<o:p></o:p></span></p>= </div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-fami= ly: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class= =3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-s= erif;">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Richards, Jan [<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">mailto:jrichards= @ocadu.ca</a>] <br> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:08 AM<br> To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> Subject: RE: Proposal for updated ATAG 2.0 Exit Criteria<o:p></o:p></span><= /p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-f= amily: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p clas= s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-= serif;">Just a reminder to all AUWG members: Please help ATAG 2.0 to = move through CR by sending a message signalling whether or not you agree wi= th the Exit Criteria proposal below.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cla= ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans= -serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa= n style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thanks Tim a= nd Alastair for responding already.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p clas= s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-= serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span= style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">PROPOSAL:<o:p= ></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz= e: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></d= iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family:= Calibri, sans-serif;">Updated proposal to replace the current ATAG 2.0 Exi= t Criteria (<a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/ATAG20/#exit">http://www.w3.org= /TR/ATAG20/#exit</a>).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma= l"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> = ;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon= t-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Notes:<o:p></o:p></span></= p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-fa= mily: Calibri, sans-serif;">- The wording borrows from HTML5 (<a href=3D"ht= tp://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/public-permissive-exit-criteria.html"= >http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/public-permissive-exit-criteria.ht= ml</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style= =3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">- The section: "Suc= cess criteria referencing WCAG 2.0 for priorities" is taken from existing a= pproved Exit Criteria.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma= l"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> = ;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon= t-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">----------------------<o:p= ></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz= e: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">For this specification to be ad= vanced to Proposed Recommendation, there must be at least two independent i= mplementations of features that meet each success criterion. Each of these features may be implemented by a different set of products and th= ere is no requirement that all features be implemented by a single product.= <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font= -size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p= ></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-fam= ily: Calibri, sans-serif;">*Independent authoring tools*<o:p></o:p></span><= /p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-f= amily: Calibri, sans-serif;">are tools by different developers that do not = share (or derive from) the same source code for the relevant feature(s). Se= ctions of code that have no bearing on the implementation of this standard are exempt from this requirement. The authoring tools mus= t be a shipping product or other publicly available version. Experimental i= mplementations, specifically designed to pass the test suite and not intend= ed for normal usage, are not permitted.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, s= ans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><= span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">*Implemen= ted*<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"= font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">refers to situations in= which a success criterion is applicable to a given authoring tool and the = authoring tool meets the success criterion. This is in contrast to situatio= ns in which a success criterion is not applicable.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div= ><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: C= alibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso= Normal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">= *Success criteria referencing WCAG 2.0 for priorities* <THIS SECTION COP= IED FROM EXISTING APPROVED EXIT CRITERIA> For the thirteen ATAG 2.0 succ= ess criteria that are dependent on WCAG 2.0 [3] for their levels, each ATAG 2.0 success criterion must be = implemented for two WCAG 2.0 success criteria at each level: A, AA, and AAA= . These six WCAG 2.0 success criteria are a sampling of the requirements of= WCAG (e.g. text alternatives for non-text content, keyboard accessibility, sufficient contrast).<o:p></o:p>= </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt= ; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">-----------------------<o:p></o:p></sp= an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; fo= nt-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, s= ans-serif;">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">= <span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Jan<o:p>= </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size= : 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></di= v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: = Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms= oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"= >(MR) JAN RICHARDS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><= span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">PROJECT M= ANAGER<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style= =3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">INCLUSIVE DESIGN RE= SEARCH CENTRE (IDRC)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"= ><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">OCAD UN= IVERSITY<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style= =3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></= span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; = font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">T 416 977 6000 x3957<o:p></o:p></span></= p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-fa= mily: Calibri, sans-serif;">F 416 977 9844<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri= , sans-serif;">E <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><o:p></o:p></sp= an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; fo= nt-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, s= ans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></span></bo= dy></html> --_000_D155A676237CCacampbellnomensacom_--