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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
16 Jun 2016
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Jun/0028.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Steven, Addison, Richard, JcK
Regrets
Najib, Felix
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]RADAR and Active Work Review
5. [9]Specdev
6. [10]Publish an update to Encoding CR
7. [11]AOB?
* [12]Summary of Action Items
* [13]Summary of Resolutions
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Agenda
Action Items
[14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-504?
<trackbot> action-504 -- Addison Phillips to Forward remaining
action 502 issues and ping dennis, leandro, and leslie about
theirs -- due 2016-04-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/504
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/504
forwarded mine, did not ping the others
action-514?
<trackbot> action-514 -- Richard Ishida to Publish ruby markup
article after pinging fantasai and koji -- due 2016-05-12 --
OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/514
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/514
close action-514
<trackbot> Closed action-514.
<r12a>
[17]https://www.w3.org/blog/International/2016/06/13/new-articl
e-ruby-markup/
[17]
https://www.w3.org/blog/International/2016/06/13/new-article-ruby-markup/
action-516?
<trackbot> action-516 -- Addison Phillips to Triage wontfixed
bugzilla items in case any action is needed? -- due 2016-05-12
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/516
[18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/516
[19]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2016A
prJun/0078.html
[19]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2016AprJun/0078.html
close action-516
<trackbot> Closed action-516.
Info Share
richard: added a new status label to tracker
... called "deferred"
... will make it appear in our list
... idea is that, for example, <q> was put off to 5.2
... dont' want to close but don't want to keep reviewing it
steven: updating instructions?
richard: yes, doing anyway
... started using our issues list
... reviewed in our lists
... copy the info into their github issues list
... and put a link back to the original
... but we've started now removing the initial comment
... certain circumstances were we've discussed before it goes
to the other group
steven: keep discussiong but remove initial comment?
richard: yes
... news about FindText
... asked Ivan about status
... work postponed for a period
... so don't worry about it
<r12a> [20]https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/
[20] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/
addison: if they published as note, ask for big red box on it?
richard: please register for TPAC as soon as possible
zakimn, take up agendum 4
RADAR and Active Work Review
[21]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/
[21] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/
<Steve_Atkin> [22]https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/485
[22] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/485
<r12a>
[23]https://w3c.github.io/uievents/#events-keyboardevents
[23] https://w3c.github.io/uievents/#events-keyboardevents
<r12a>
[24]https://www.w3.org/International/reviews/1002-dom3-events/
[24] https://www.w3.org/International/reviews/1002-dom3-events/
<r12a>
[25]https://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0806-xhtml-access/
[25] https://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0806-xhtml-access/
[26]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
[26] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
richard: publication of ruby markup article
... make more visible where implementation is needed
... increase implementaiton adoption
... start writing bugs against implementations
addison: have tests, right?
richard: we do
<r12a>
[27]https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/ruby-ht
ml
[27] https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/ruby-html
Specdev
[28]http://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev
[28] http://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev
[29]https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/issues
[29] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/issues
steven: do we think they'll understand code points and code
units and understand those things?
richard: "more" sections are supposed to explain
... but in some cases like this might be a little bare
... for the sake of speed, just copied recommendations direct
form charmod
steven: logical vs. visual order
... is that applicable to non-unicode encodings
richard: guidance to spec writers
... don't want new specs in visual order
steven: my concern is some of our legacy encoding heritage
... okay with that
... base direction and assuming dir from lang
... 7 and 8?
... should not require content author to use control characters
to get direction they want, right?
richard: could be a script or whatever, not just content author
steven: can indicate as metadata, not use controls to get
effect wanted
... want to change to be explicit "do not use lang to get dir"
richard: may be certain situations, if not information is
available, as a fallback
... doesn't always hold
... kind of left it
steven: last thing was #5
... default text processing language
... for resource as a whole *and* any inheritance models
richard: inheritance should be the case at resource and block
level
... had it there so spec authors would see it in context
... will have another look
steven: rest are commented on
(Steven exuent)
<r12a> [30]http://r12a.github.io/apps/conversion/
[30] http://r12a.github.io/apps/conversion/
<r12a> [31]https://www.w3.org/TR/charmod/#C042
[31] https://www.w3.org/TR/charmod/#C042
\u{1234}
\U
Publish an update to Encoding CR
richard: would like to take a decision on publishing an update
when we know what that involves
<r12a>
[32]https://www.w3.org/International/docs/encoding/encoding-cr-
doc2
[32] https://www.w3.org/International/docs/encoding/encoding-cr-doc2
richard: first step is to publish an updated CR
... some subsntative made, but mostly settling
move to publish a new CR of Encoding
+1
<r12a> +1
<JcK> +1 (with qualification for list objections)
<scribe> ACTION:addison: call for objections to publishing
Encoding updated CR [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[33] http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
AOB?
richard: want to be more proactive about closing issues in our
lists
... marked our web-annotations ones
... ask www-international and then close if no objections
[34]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/close%3F
[34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/close%3F
<r12a> [35]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
[35] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
do by spec
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: call for objections to publishing
Encoding updated CR [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[36] http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01
Summary of Resolutions
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