[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2020-06-18
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- DRAFT -
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
18 Jun 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Jun/0007.html
Attendees
Present
Bert, Richard, addison, atsushi, fuqiao, David, JcK
Regrets
Felix
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda and Minutes
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]RADAR Review
5. [8]Issue 865 and other pending review issues
6. [9]HTML and email input type
7. [10]CSS Text Issue Review
8. [11]AOB?
* [12]Summary of Action Items
* [13]Summary of Resolutions
__________________________________________________________
trackbot, prepare teleconference
<agendabot> clear agenda
<scribe> scribenick: addison
Agenda and Minutes
Action Items
[14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-918?
<trackbot> action-918 -- Addison Phillips to Flesh out issue
865 for re-review -- due 2020-06-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/918
[15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/918
close action-918
<trackbot> Closed action-918.
Info Share
richard: for the past week
... we published the simple-ruby document
... and need it for wide review. not done yet
<scribe> ACTION: richard: send simple-ruby for wide review
<trackbot> Created ACTION-920 - Send simple-ruby for wide
review [on Richard Ishida - due 2020-06-25].
richard: there may be some additional discussion from jlreq
group
... btw, published 25 other documents as FPWD :-)
... setting up echidna with things like language enablement
index
... setting up is slow, much pain
... hope outcome is single HTML page
... if going to update docs, can choose from update document
and generates all the complicated syntax
... hoping by the time I get done it will be simple to publish
things
... one item to mention: if you want to run pubrules
... and it's published by echidna on the same day
... it won't work
RADAR Review
[16]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
[16] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
Issue 865 and other pending review issues
[17]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/865
[17] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/865
<r12a> lgtm
<scribe> ACTION: addison: send issue 865 to
personalization-semantics
<trackbot> Created ACTION-921 - Send issue 865 to
personalization-semantics [on Addison Phillips - due
2020-06-25].
HTML and email input type
we'll park this until jck can join as it appears to be
non-urgent
CSS Text Issue Review
[18]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020M
ay/0001.html
[18] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020May/0001.html
<xfq>
[19]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aopen+lab
el%3Aneeds-resolution+label%3As%3Acss-text
[19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:open+label:needs-resolution+label:s:css-text
[20]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is
%3Aopen+label%3As%3Acss-text+label%3Aneeds-resolution
[20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:s:css-text+label:needs-resolution
[21]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/221
[21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/221
[22]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/896
[22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/896
[23]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5031
[23] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5031
RESOLUTION: close issue 896
[24]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261
[24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261
<xfq>
[25]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/0fd0dae933a0c773
042467947b08bc1d38dbf674
[25] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/0fd0dae933a0c773042467947b08bc1d38dbf674
<xfq> Spec text:
[26]https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#languages
[26] https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#languages
[27]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/785
[27] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/785
<r12a> [28]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261
[28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261
RESOLUTION: close issue 261
[29]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/249
[29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/249
addison: do we close or keep tracking for 4?
atsushi: the css WG issue is closed
addison: do we need a tracker for sub-grapheme styling?
RESOLUTION: close issue 249
[30]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/223
[30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/223
<xfq>
[31]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Oct/0068
.html
[31] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Oct/0068.html
<xfq> Titlecasing digraphs (issue #111)
MacGuffin
IJ
Dz
<r12a> DZa Dza dza
ZEBRA -> ZEBRA
but zebra -> Zebra
addison: fantasai is saying it only affects initial lowercase
letters, which may be effectively correct?
<r12a> capitalize'
<r12a> # Puts the first typographic letter unit of each word in
titlecase,
<r12a> unless it is already uppercase, in which case it is
unchanged. Other
addison: only promotes letters, doesn't lowercase anything
<r12a> characters are unaffected.
<r12a> Puts the first typographic letter unit of each word in
titlecase,
<r12a> unless it is already uppercase and is followed by
another uppercase
<r12a> letter, in which case it is unchanged. Other characters
are unaffected.
LJUBLJANA
LjUBLJANA
<xfq> Spec text:
[32]https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#valdef-text-transform-
capitalize
[32] https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#valdef-text-transform-capitalize
LJubljana
<atsushi> +1
RESOLUTION: close issue 223
[33]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/91
[33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/91
[34]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5068
[34] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5068
RESOLUTION: close issue 91
<scribe> ACTION: richard: close all css-text issues from
telecon and communicate status in CSS's issues
<trackbot> Created ACTION-922 - Close all css-text issues from
telecon and communicate status in css's issues [on Richard
Ishida - due 2020-06-25].
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: send issue 865 to
personalization-semantics
[NEW] ACTION: richard: close all css-text issues from telecon
and communicate status in CSS's issues
[NEW] ACTION: richard: send simple-ruby for wide review
Summary of Resolutions
1. [35]close issue 896
2. [36]close issue 261
3. [37]close issue 249
4. [38]close issue 223
5. [39]close issue 91
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version follows;<br><br><br><br><pre> - DRAFT -
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
18 Jun 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Jun/0007.html">https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Jun/0007.html</a>
Attendees
Present
Bert, Richard, addison, atsushi, fuqiao, David, JcK
Regrets
Felix
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda and Minutes
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]RADAR Review
5. [8]Issue 865 and other pending review issues
6. [9]HTML and email input type
7. [10]CSS Text Issue Review
8. [11]AOB?
* [12]Summary of Action Items
* [13]Summary of Resolutions
__________________________________________________________
trackbot, prepare teleconference
<agendabot> clear agenda
<scribe> scribenick: addison
Agenda and Minutes
Action Items
[14]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open">https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open</a>
[14] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open">https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open</a>
action-918?
<trackbot> action-918 -- Addison Phillips to Flesh out issue
865 for re-review -- due 2020-06-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/918">https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/918</a>
[15] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/918">https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/918</a>
close action-918
<trackbot> Closed action-918.
Info Share
richard: for the past week
... we published the simple-ruby document
... and need it for wide review. not done yet
<scribe> ACTION: richard: send simple-ruby for wide review
<trackbot> Created ACTION-920 - Send simple-ruby for wide
review [on Richard Ishida - due 2020-06-25].
richard: there may be some additional discussion from jlreq
group
... btw, published 25 other documents as FPWD :-)
... setting up echidna with things like language enablement
index
... setting up is slow, much pain
... hope outcome is single HTML page
... if going to update docs, can choose from update document
and generates all the complicated syntax
... hoping by the time I get done it will be simple to publish
things
... one item to mention: if you want to run pubrules
... and it's published by echidna on the same day
... it won't work
RADAR Review
[16]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1</a>
[16] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1</a>
Issue 865 and other pending review issues
[17]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/865">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/865</a>
[17] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/865">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/865</a>
<r12a> lgtm
<scribe> ACTION: addison: send issue 865 to
personalization-semantics
<trackbot> Created ACTION-921 - Send issue 865 to
personalization-semantics [on Addison Phillips - due
2020-06-25].
HTML and email input type
we'll park this until jck can join as it appears to be
non-urgent
CSS Text Issue Review
[18]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020M">https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020M</a>
ay/0001.html
[18] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020May/0001.html">https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020May/0001.html</a>
<xfq>
[19]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aopen+lab">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aopen+lab</a>
el%3Aneeds-resolution+label%3As%3Acss-text
[19] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:open+label:needs-resolution+label:s:css-text">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:open+label:needs-resolution+label:s:css-text</a>
[20]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is</a>
%3Aopen+label%3As%3Acss-text+label%3Aneeds-resolution
[20] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:s:css-text+label:needs-resolution">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:s:css-text+label:needs-resolution</a>
[21]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/221">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/221</a>
[21] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/221">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/221</a>
[22]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/896">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/896</a>
[22] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/896">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/896</a>
[23]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5031">https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5031</a>
[23] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5031">https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5031</a>
RESOLUTION: close issue 896
[24]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261</a>
[24] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261</a>
<xfq>
[25]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/0fd0dae933a0c773">https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/0fd0dae933a0c773</a>
042467947b08bc1d38dbf674
[25] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/0fd0dae933a0c773042467947b08bc1d38dbf674">https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/0fd0dae933a0c773042467947b08bc1d38dbf674</a>
<xfq> Spec text:
[26]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#languages">https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#languages</a>
[26] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#languages">https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#languages</a>
[27]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/785">https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/785</a>
[27] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/785">https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/785</a>
<r12a> [28]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261</a>
[28] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/261</a>
RESOLUTION: close issue 261
[29]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/249">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/249</a>
[29] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/249">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/249</a>
addison: do we close or keep tracking for 4?
atsushi: the css WG issue is closed
addison: do we need a tracker for sub-grapheme styling?
RESOLUTION: close issue 249
[30]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/223">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/223</a>
[30] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/223">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/223</a>
<xfq>
[31]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Oct/0068">https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Oct/0068</a>
.html
[31] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Oct/0068.html">https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Oct/0068.html</a>
<xfq> Titlecasing digraphs (issue #111)
MacGuffin
IJ
Dz
<r12a> DZa Dza dza
ZEBRA -> ZEBRA
but zebra -> Zebra
addison: fantasai is saying it only affects initial lowercase
letters, which may be effectively correct?
<r12a> capitalize'
<r12a> # Puts the first typographic letter unit of each word in
titlecase,
<r12a> unless it is already uppercase, in which case it is
unchanged. Other
addison: only promotes letters, doesn't lowercase anything
<r12a> characters are unaffected.
<r12a> Puts the first typographic letter unit of each word in
titlecase,
<r12a> unless it is already uppercase and is followed by
another uppercase
<r12a> letter, in which case it is unchanged. Other characters
are unaffected.
LJUBLJANA
LjUBLJANA
<xfq> Spec text:
[32]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#valdef-text-transform">https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#valdef-text-transform</a>-
capitalize
[32] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#valdef-text-transform-capitalize">https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#valdef-text-transform-capitalize</a>
LJubljana
<atsushi> +1
RESOLUTION: close issue 223
[33]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/91">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/91</a>
[33] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/91">https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/91</a>
[34]<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5068">https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5068</a>
[34] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5068">https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5068</a>
RESOLUTION: close issue 91
<scribe> ACTION: richard: close all css-text issues from
telecon and communicate status in CSS's issues
<trackbot> Created ACTION-922 - Close all css-text issues from
telecon and communicate status in css's issues [on Richard
Ishida - due 2020-06-25].
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: send issue 865 to
personalization-semantics
[NEW] ACTION: richard: close all css-text issues from telecon
and communicate status in CSS's issues
[NEW] ACTION: richard: send simple-ruby for wide review
Summary of Resolutions
1. [35]close issue 896
2. [36]close issue 261
3. [37]close issue 249
4. [38]close issue 223
5. [39]close issue 91
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