Re: RDF* and SPARQL* study

"LJ.Garcia" <[email protected]> Thu, 25 Jun 2020 17:36:51 +0200
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Hi all,

A possibility that could be considered if you see the responses to the
questionnaire do not give you enough/uniform information, would be a
webinar on the approach. That would allow for more discussion that could be
useful for the research going on behind the questionnaire.

Regards,

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:13 AM Antoine Zimmermann <
[email protected]> wrote:

> While this public response that ought to be private is unfortunate, it
> tells that there should be a discussion about the questionnaire, after
> the deadline for answering it is passed. There's much bias in the
> questions that strongly pushes the respondent to choose certain answers,
> when in reality, opposite answers could be reasonable in certain
> situations.
>
> I'm not going to give any detail and any further comments about it,
> though, until the questionnaire is closed.
>
> --AZ
>
> Le 24/06/2020 =C3=A0 01:39, Peter F. Patel-Schneider a =C3=A9crit :
> > I answered the questionnaire.  The modelling decisions in the
> questionnaire
> > are bad - particularly not using xsd:gYear for year dates.  If the
> intent of
> > the study was not to catch these problems, I don't see how its results
> are
> > going to have any significance.
> >
> >
> > Peter F. Patel-Schneider
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/23/20 10:15 AM, Paul.Warren wrote:
> >> I would greatly appreciate your involvement in a study which I
> believe will
> >> be beneficial to our community, in particular supporting the further
> >> development of SPARQL and related languages.
> >>
> >> The study investigates how people create models in RDF* and queries in
> >> SPARQL*.  As some of you will be aware, RDF* and SPARQL* are extension
> to
> >> RDF and SPARQL designed by Olaf Hartig (https://blog.liu.se/olafhartig
> >> <https://blog.liu.se/olafhartig/>) to enable reification, and the
> querying
> >> of reified statements.
> >>
> >> The results of the study will be published in the research literature;
> all
> >> data will be anonymised.
> >>
> >> The study consists of 15 questions relating to RDF* and SPARQL*, and
> will
> >> take between 30 minutes and one hour.  Some of the questions depend
> purely
> >> on the features of RDF and SPARQL, as defined by the W3C.  Other
> questions
> >> make use of the extended features in RDF* and SPARQL*.  Whilst many of
> you
> >> will, I am sure, be very familiar with RDF and SPARQL, I provide an
> >> information 'handout' which describes everything you need to know to
> >> complete the study.  In particular, the last page of the handout lists
> >> everything you need in compact form.
> >>
> >> The study questionnaire is available at
> >> https://spice.kmi.open.ac.uk/pwsparql/sparql
> >> <https://spice.kmi.open.ac.uk/pwsparql/sparql>.  The handout is
> attached to
> >> this email.
> >>
> >> The study is available for approximately two weeks, i.e. until Wednesd=
y
> 8th
> >> July.
> >>
> >> The study has been reviewed by, and received a favourable opinion from=
,
> The
> >> Open University Human Research Ethics Committee, reference HREC/3568.
> >>
> >> Many thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul Warren
> >>
> >> Visiting Research Fellow
> >>
> >> Knowledge Media Institute, The Open University, U.K.
> >>
> >> http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/member/paul-warren
> >>
> >> skype: paul.w.warren1
> >>
> >> 07379 114331
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Antoine Zimmermann
> ISCOD / LSTI - Institut Henri Fayol
> =C3=89cole Nationale Sup=C3=A9rieure des Mines de Saint-=C3=89tienne
> 158 cours Fauriel
> 42023 Saint-=C3=89tienne Cedex 2
> France
> T=C3=A9l:+33(0)4 77 42 66 03
> Fax:+33(0)4 77 42 66 66
> http://zimmer.aprilfoolsreview.com/
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi all, <br></div><div><br></div><div>A possibility t=
hat could be considered if you see the responses to the questionnaire do no=
t give you enough/uniform information, would be a webinar on the approach. =
That would allow for more discussion that could be useful for the research =
going on behind the questionnaire.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br=
></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:13 AM Antoine Zimmermann &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">While this publ=
ic response that ought to be private is unfortunate, it <br>
tells that there should be a discussion about the questionnaire, after <br>
the deadline for answering it is passed. There&#39;s much bias in the <br>
questions that strongly pushes the respondent to choose certain answers, <b=
r>
when in reality, opposite answers could be reasonable in certain situations=
.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not going to give any detail and any further comments about it, <br=
>
though, until the questionnaire is closed.<br>
<br>
--AZ<br>
<br>
Le 24/06/2020 =C3=A0 01:39, Peter F. Patel-Schneider a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br=
>
&gt; I answered the questionnaire.=C2=A0 The modelling decisions in the que=
stionnaire<br>
&gt; are bad - particularly not using xsd:gYear for year dates.=C2=A0 If th=
e intent of<br>
&gt; the study was not to catch these problems, I don&#39;t see how its res=
ults are<br>
&gt; going to have any significance.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Peter F. Patel-Schneider<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On 6/23/20 10:15 AM, Paul.Warren wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; I would greatly appreciate your involvement in a study which I bel=
ieve=C2=A0will<br>
&gt;&gt; be beneficial to our community, in particular supporting the furth=
er<br>
&gt;&gt; development of SPARQL and related languages.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The study investigates how people create models in RDF* and querie=
s in<br>
&gt;&gt; SPARQL*.=C2=A0 As some of you will be aware, RDF* and SPARQL* are =
extension to<br>
&gt;&gt; RDF and SPARQL designed by Olaf Hartig (<a href=3D"https://blog.li=
u.se/olafhartig" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://blog.liu.se/o=
lafhartig</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://blog.liu.se/olafhartig/" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank">https://blog.liu.se/olafhartig/</a>&gt;) to enable reifi=
cation, and the querying<br>
&gt;&gt; of reified statements.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The results of the study will be published in the research literat=
ure; all<br>
&gt;&gt; data will be anonymised.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The study consists of 15 questions relating to RDF* and SPARQL*, a=
nd will<br>
&gt;&gt; take between 30 minutes and one hour.=C2=A0 Some of the questions =
depend purely<br>
&gt;&gt; on the features of RDF and SPARQL, as defined by the W3C.=C2=A0 Ot=
her questions<br>
&gt;&gt; make use of the extended features in RDF* and SPARQL*.=C2=A0 Whils=
t many of you<br>
&gt;&gt; will, I am sure, be very familiar with RDF and SPARQL, I provide a=
n<br>
&gt;&gt; information &#39;handout&#39; which describes everything you need =
to know to<br>
&gt;&gt; complete the study.=C2=A0 In particular, the last page of the hand=
out lists<br>
&gt;&gt; everything you need in compact form.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The study questionnaire is available at<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://spice.kmi.open.ac.uk/pwsparql/sparql" rel=3D"no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">https://spice.kmi.open.ac.uk/pwsparql/sparql</a=
><br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://spice.kmi.open.ac.uk/pwsparql/sparql" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://spice.kmi.open.ac.uk/pwsparql/spa=
rql</a>&gt;.=C2=A0 The handout is attached to<br>
&gt;&gt; this email.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The study is available for approximately two weeks, i.e. until Wed=
nesdy 8th<br>
&gt;&gt; July.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The study has been reviewed by, and received a favourable opinion =
from, The<br>
&gt;&gt; Open University Human Research Ethics Committee, reference HREC/35=
68.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Many thanks.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Paul Warren<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Visiting Research Fellow<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Knowledge Media Institute, The Open University, U.K.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/member/paul-warren" rel=3D=
"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/member/paul-war=
ren</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; skype:=C2=A0paul.w.warren1<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; 07379 114331<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Antoine Zimmermann<br>
ISCOD / LSTI - Institut Henri Fayol<br>
=C3=89cole Nationale Sup=C3=A9rieure des Mines de Saint-=C3=89tienne<br>
158 cours Fauriel<br>
42023 Saint-=C3=89tienne Cedex 2<br>
France<br>
T=C3=A9l:+33(0)4 77 42 66 03<br>
Fax:+33(0)4 77 42 66 66<br>
<a href=3D"http://zimmer.aprilfoolsreview.com/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">http://zimmer.aprilfoolsreview.com/</a><br>
<br>
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