Re: keygen and client-certificates document available

On 2015-12-06 00:44, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2015, at 7:47 pm, Martin Thomson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
<snip>

>> Does the TAG have consensus that <keygen> (and friends) is worth
>> replacing?
>
> Section 5 starts:
>    "The keygen element should be replaced by a new API better suited for modern day application requirements."
>
> By "and friends", do you mean client certificates? That would be a much broader discussion.

If this wasn't the underlaying issue (orgin-unbound client certificates = useless/dangerous/etc),
<keygen> would probably have been updated years ago.

Since such a discussion has no chance of getting anywhere (=consensus with respect to
vendors versus the "market"), the only working long-term solution is removing this part
from the browser and "let people do what they want to do" like they currently do with
Android and iPhone "Apps".

The recent buy-in by Mozilla and Microsoft to Chrome's Native Messaging [1]
system makes both <keygen> and client-certificate support in Chrome a non-issue.
It has already been put in production by the Estonian government for eID support.

Anders

1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webappsec/2015Oct/0071.html