Re: WMF Board of Trustees: Board Selection Process Update
Hannah Clover via Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> Fri, 24 Jul 2026 12:14:08 +0200
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--===============6121725923175576214== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cfdb7c065758a26c" --000000000000cfdb7c065758a26c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm a female admin and even I wouldn't qualify under this criteria because normal adminship doesn't count. Multiple people have been discussing this on Meta, too. It's deeply unpopular and the fact we got to the point where this is being seriously considered without people noticing how out of touch it is is another reason I'm concerned about the current state of the board. On Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 10:19=E2=80=AFa.m. Tila Cappelletto via Wikimedia-l < [email protected]> wrote: > +1 to Ciell's concern, and thank you for raising it. > > While the proposed eligibility criteria for new trustees include differen= t > forms of governance and community experience, it's important to note that > the latest Community Insights Survey states that "*Women were less well > represented among Admins, of whom only 7% identified as women*." (1) Is > there similar data on the participation of women and gender-diverse > Wikimedians across the other eligibility categories, such as committee > service? > > More importantly, how was the risk of reinforcing the Wikimedia movement'= s > long-standing gender gap in participation considered and addressed during > the development of this proposal? > > Finally, systemic issues should be treated as such. The question is not > whether individual women have managed to overcome structural barriers and > be elected to the WMF Board of Trustees, but how those barriers continue = to > shape participation and governance across the movement as a whole. > > (1) > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Community_Insights_202= 4_Report#Gender > In solidarity, > Tila Cappelletto > www.linkedin.com/in/tilacappelletto > > > Em seg., 20 de jul. de 2026 =C3=A0s 19:25, Ciell Wikipedia via Wikimedia-= l < > [email protected]> escreveu: > >> I wonder how many women* would qualify under the new conditions, and am >> concerned that these proposed restrictions on community members would >> create a glass ceiling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_ceiling) for >> their candidacy. >> >> And while Victoria says she does not have time, I hope there will be som= e >> numbers available by Wednesday when the topic is scheduled for a session= at >> Wikimania. >> >> Best, >> Ciell >> >> Op ma 20 jul 2026, 12:58 schreef Hannah Clover via Wikimedia-l < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> > Unfortunately, it feels like the board is not aligned with the >>> movement at large and does not trust the community to pick people who a= re >>> actually aligned with the mission, and has thus refused to implement th= e >>> community's wishes. As a result, I cannot in good faith support the cur= rent >>> changes. >>> >>> Same goes for me. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 10:26=E2=80=AFa.m. Sohom Datta via Wikimedia-l < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I wanted to voice concerns over the proposed changes to candidate >>>> criteria for the Trustee elections. >>>> >>>> The current criteria significantly limit community participation, down >>>> from "almost anyone can participate" to "only functionaries". I think = this >>>> runs counter to our movement's values, which prioritize openness and >>>> broader participation. Based on a quick bit of SQL on the replica >>>> databases, the number of people eligible to stand in the elections and >>>> represent English Wikipedia (a group of 200K active editors) on the Bo= T is >>>> *drum roll, please* 124 users (with an error bar of, say, 10 users?). = I, >>>> for one, refuse to believe that only 124 out of 200K English Wikipedia= ns >>>> are familiar enough with the movement at large to make governance deci= sions, >>>> and I think a comparison with the candidates from previous elections p= roves >>>> the point. I don't think Mike Peel (in their volunteer Commons editor >>>> capacity, not their affiliate capacity), Doc James (when they were >>>> elected), or Lane Raspberry (whose removal from the elections kicked o= ff >>>> the community response that culminated in this criteria) would be >>>> eligible to run. In addition, I know of at least 3 more editors who I >>>> would consider adequately equipped to run for a board seat but who >>>> would not fit within the guidelines as currently written. >>>> >>>> For what it's worth, this feels like a backsliding. The community has = asked >>>> the board to allow more mission-aligned people to run for the board, s= o >>>> that there are more candidates to pick from in the board election. The >>>> board appears to have responded by digging its heels in, retaining the >>>> heavily criticized shortlisting process and the equally controversial >>>> vetting process that eliminated two mission-aligned candidates, but in= stead >>>> publishing an extremely restrictive set of criteria that limits who ca= n >>>> actually run for the election in the first place. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, it feels like the board is not aligned with the movemen= t >>>> at large and does not trust the community to pick people who are >>>> actually aligned with the mission, and has thus refused to implement >>>> the community's wishes. As a result, I cannot in good faith support th= e >>>> current changes. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sohom Datta >>>> --- >>>> Open-source contributor @Wikimedia >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2026 at 11:08=E2=80=AFAM Victoria Doronina via Wikimed= ia-l < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Sam, >>>>> >>>>> You say bureaucracy, I say governance. Please forgive me for stating >>>>> the obvious, but WMF is a very large international organisation. It's= much >>>>> easier to scale up the experience from a smaller Wikimedia organisati= on >>>>> than to start from scratch. >>>>> >>>>> And people who have Wikimedia governance experience usually have >>>>> experience with outreach campaigns and education in some form. >>>>> >>>>> I also agree that knowing several languages is valuable, but I don't >>>>> think we should discriminate against "English as a native and only >>>>> language" speakers - it's our working language. >>>>> >>>>> Lastly, while I don't have time to gather the statistics about the >>>>> current and past candidates, I know that I would've qualified when I = first >>>>> ran - as a former member of the Russian Wikipedia ArbCom and a former >>>>> member of the Funds Dissemination Committee - note that I've never be= en on >>>>> a board of an affiliate. >>>>> >>>>> And lastly, I hope that the current criteria will encourage people to >>>>> serve on the global committees such as AffCom, U4C etc, and people wh= o >>>>> serve on them to participate in the Board elections as candidates - w= e need >>>>> all the talent we can get. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2026 at 1:06=E2=80=AFPM Samuel Klein via Wikimedia-l = < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks so much Margo. The base requirements seem good. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Categories of Governance or Community Experience seem to trend >>>>>> mostly towards bureacratic experience, not related to experience wit= h >>>>>> knowledge work (like education or contribution), or outreach (like >>>>>> partnerships or campaigns), or multilingualism (including translatio= n and >>>>>> multinational initiatives). It also singles out incorporated affili= ates >>>>>> with paid staff over all other forms of community organizing and pro= ject >>>>>> work, as demonstration of community experience; can you say more abo= ut >>>>>> that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you analyzed which current and past trustees / candidates would >>>>>> have fit these proposed criteria? That might be a useful appendix f= or the >>>>>> discussion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 10:40=E2=80=AFPM Margo Lee via Wikimedia-l < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Following the 2025 elections, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of >>>>>>> Trustees committed >>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_no= ticeboard/October_2025_update#c-LLosa_(WMF)-20251015213400-Additional_persp= ectives_on_current_and_future_board_selection_processes> >>>>>>> to reviewing the selection process of new Trustees, soliciting and >>>>>>> receiving feedback and suggestions and proposing changes. The Board >>>>>>> received extensive comments posted on Meta >>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/202= 5/Debrief>, >>>>>>> which helped inform this approach. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Board has discussed the following goals for reforms: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clarity and consistency of the electoral process >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clarity of roles and responsibilities >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Transparent communications and timeline >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A slate of candidates who strengthen the board through the >>>>>>> experience they bring >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reduced need for shortlisting >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Strong voter participation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Board is now ready to publish its draft eligibility requirement= s >>>>>>> for feedback from the community. The requirements are more specific= and >>>>>>> detailed than in years past, to both inform the community of what t= he Board >>>>>>> needs and to create multiple pathways to the Board for Wikimedians.= They >>>>>>> are also presented as requirements for candidates, not desirable qu= alities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Board is also emphasising the need for previous governance >>>>>>> experience, including these key elements of experience: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Understanding the role of oversight vs. governance vs. managemen= t >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Understanding Fiduciary Duties >>>>>>> <https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Legal_and_Fiduciary_= Duties_for_Wikimedia_Foundation_Trustees_Public_Version.pdf> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Understanding the "Group Dynamics" of a board or committee (and >>>>>>> other collective decision-making bodies): working well with othe= rs to ask >>>>>>> probing questions, voice different views and contribute to infor= med >>>>>>> decisions for the good of the whole, not an individual agenda >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Board is now looking for specific feedback on the proposed >>>>>>> eligibility criteria >>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Found= ation_elections/2027/Proposed_eligibility_criteria> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Board Governance Committee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Margo Lee on behalf of the Governance Committee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Margo Lee* (she/her) >>>>>>> Deputy Chief of Staff >>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>>>>> guidelines at: >>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>>>>> Public archives at >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]= edia.org/message/GS3S74YZFPGACVTOTR7DEL4OHTGCW2JP/ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>>>> wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 52= 9 >>>>>> 4266 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>>>> guidelines at: >>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>>>> Public archives at >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]= dia.org/message/WPGOIQJ7OKLX66KRXQHPQRYVLH6PIWNC/ >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM8Xa4x6EXUF0@public.gmane.org= g >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kind regards, Victoria >>>>> Victoria Doronina >>>>> <https://wikimediafoundation.org/profile/dr-victoria-doronina/> (she/= her), >>>>> UTC >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation Trustee >>>>> Community and Affiliates Liaison >>>>> Human Rights Liaison >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> >>>>> >>>>> "Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share i= n >>>>> the sum of all knowledge. Please help us make it a reality." >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>>> guidelines at: >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>>> Public archives at >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]= ia.org/message/RR523SXFWNAVSCOCENZE6WRIICBVUJ6L/ >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], >>>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guideline= s >>>> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> Public archives at >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]= a.org/message/PAVHVVWAT4YHUYBNKOYKHAG23OH2BSH3/ >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]= .org/message/QHPRDT6QBRNMA6V7ZLGJUOGXO622QUJE/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]= org/message/YGVDH7253G4LH4K5BBB3J6F3OWU254QD/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]= rg/message/Q5CO7HJBBBXOVIFTCO273NUBRNV5EJU2/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org --000000000000cfdb7c065758a26c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">I'm a female admin and even I wouldn't qualify un= der this criteria because normal adminship doesn't count. Multiple peop= le have been discussing this on Meta, too. It's deeply unpopular and th= e fact we got to the point where this is being seriously considered without= people noticing how out of touch it is is another reason I'm concerned= about the current state of the board.=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q= uote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, J= ul 24, 2026, 10:19=E2=80=AFa.m. Tila Cappelletto via Wikimedia-l <<a hre= f=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= g</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin= :0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><= div><p><span>+1 to Ciell's concern, and thank you for raising it.</span= ></p><p><span>While the proposed eligibility criteria for new trustees incl= ude different forms of governance and community experience, it's import= ant to note that the latest Community Insights Survey states that "<i>= Women were less well represented among Admins, of whom only 7% identified a= s women</i>." (1) Is there similar data on the participation of women = and gender-diverse Wikimedians across the other eligibility categories, suc= h as committee service?=C2=A0</span></p><p><span>More importantly, how was = the risk of reinforcing the Wikimedia movement's long-standing gender g= ap in participation considered and addressed during the development of this= proposal?=C2=A0</span></p><p><span>Finally, systemic issues should be trea= ted as such. The question is not whether individual women have managed to o= vercome structural barriers and be elected=C2=A0to the WMF Board of Trustee= s, but how those barriers continue to shape participation and governance ac= ross the movement as a whole.</span></p><p><span>(1) </span><a href=3D"http= s://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Community_Insights_2024_Repo= rt#Gender" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><span>https://meta.wikimedi= a.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Community_Insights_2024_Report#Gender</span><= /a></p></div><div>In solidarity,</div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_= signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><f= ont size=3D"2">Tila Cappelletto</font></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.link= edin.com/in/tilacappelletto" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">www.linke= din.com/in/tilacappelletto</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div></div>= </div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"= gmail_attr">Em seg., 20 de jul. de 2026 =C3=A0s 19:25, Ciell Wikipedia via = Wikimedia-l <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> escr= eveu:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p= x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir= =3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>I wonder how many women*= would qualify under the new conditions, and am concerned that these propos= ed restrictions on community members would create a glass ceiling (<a href= =3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_ceiling" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n= oreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_ceiling</a>) for their candi= dacy.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">And while Victoria= says she does not have time, I hope there will be some numbers available b= y Wednesday when the topic is scheduled for a session at Wikimania.=C2=A0</= div><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <div> <div><font size=3D"2">Best,</font></div><div><font size=3D"2">Ciell</font><= /div></div> </div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"= gmail_attr">Op ma 20 jul 2026, 12:58 schreef Hannah Clover via Wikimedia-l = <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer no= referrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&= gt;:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px= 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D= "auto">> Unfortunately, it feels like the board is not aligned with the = movement at large and does not trust the community to pick people who are a= ctually aligned with the mission, and has thus refused to implement the com= munity's wishes. As a result, I cannot in good faith support the curren= t changes.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Same goes for me.= =C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"= gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 10:26=E2=80=AFa.m. Sohom Datta via Wikime= dia-l <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"norefer= rer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= ikimedia.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl= e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin= g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:verdana,sans-serif">I wanted to voice concerns over the proposed <= span style=3D"border-style:none;background:none">changes to</span> candidat= e criteria for the Trustee elections.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul= t" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d= efault" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The current criteria signi= ficantly limit community participation, <span style=3D"border-style:none;ba= ckground:none">down</span> from "almost anyone can participate" t= o "only functionaries". I think this runs counter to our movement= 's=C2=A0values, which prioritize openness and broader participation.=C2= =A0<span style=3D"background-color:transparent">Based on a quick bit of SQL= on the replica databases, the number of people eligible to stand in the el= ections and represent English Wikipedia (a group of 200K active editors) on= the BoT is *drum roll, please* 124 users (with an error bar of, say, 10 us= ers?).=C2=A0 I, for one, refuse to believe=C2=A0that only 124 out of 200K E= nglish Wikipedians are familiar enough with the movement at large to=C2=A0<= /span><span style=3D"background-color:transparent">make </span><span style= =3D"background:none;border-style:none">governance</span><span style=3D"back= ground-color:transparent">=C2=A0<span style=3D"border-style:none;background= :none">decisions, and</span> I think a comparison with the candidates from = previous elections <span style=3D"border-style:none;background:none">proves= the</span> point. I don't think Mike Peel (in their volunteer Commons = editor capacity, not their affiliate capacity), Doc James (when they were e= lected), or Lane Raspberry (whose removal from the elections kicked off the= community response that culminated in <span style=3D"border-style:none;bac= kground:none"><span style=3D"border-style:none;background:none">this</span>= </span> criteria) would be eligible to run. <span style=3D"border-style:non= e;background:none"><span style=3D"border-style:none;background:none">In add= ition,</span> I know of </span>at least 3 more=C2=A0<span style=3D"border-s= tyle:none;background:none"><span style=3D"border-style:none;background:none= ">editors who I would</span></span> consider adequately equipped to run for= a board seat but=C2=A0who would not <span style=3D"border-style:none;backg= round:none">fit within the guidelines as currently written.</span></span></= div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><= br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-ser= if">For what it's=C2=A0worth, this feels like <span style=3D"border-sty= le:none;background:none">a </span>backsliding. The community <span style=3D= "border-style:none;background:none">has </span>asked the board to allow mor= e mission-aligned people to run for the board, <span style=3D"border-style:= none;background:none">so that there are more candidates to pick from in</sp= an> the board election. The board appears to have responded by digging its = heels in, retaining the heavily criticized shortlisting process and the equ= ally controversial vetting process that eliminated two mission-aligned cand= idates, but instead publishing an extremely restrictive set of criteria tha= t limits who can actually run for the election in the first place.=C2=A0=C2= =A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-ser= if"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,san= s-serif">Unfortunately, it feels like the board=C2=A0is not aligned with th= e movement at large and=C2=A0<span style=3D"background-color:transparent">d= oes not trust the community to pick people who are actually aligned with th= e mission, <span style=3D"border-style:none;background:none">and has thus r= efused</span> to implement the community's wishes. As a result, I canno= t in good faith support the current changes.</span></div><br clear=3D"all">= </div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div= ><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir= =3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" colo= r=3D"#666666">Regards,</font></div><div><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" = color=3D"#666666">Sohom Datta</font><span></span></div><div><font face=3D"v= erdana, sans-serif" color=3D"#666666">---</font></div><div><font face=3D"ve= rdana, sans-serif" color=3D"#666666">Open-source contributor @Wikimedia</fo= nt></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>= </div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class= =3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 19, 2026 at 11:08=E2=80=AFAM Victoria Doronina = via Wikimedia-l <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel= =3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blan= k">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas= s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r= gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello Sam,<div><br></div= ><div>You say bureaucracy, I say governance. Please forgive me for stating = the obvious, but WMF is a very large international organisation. It's m= uch easier to scale up the experience from a smaller Wikimedia organisation= than to start from scratch.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>And people who = have Wikimedia governance=C2=A0experience usually have experience with outr= each campaigns and education in some form.</div><div><br></div><div>I also = agree that knowing several languages is valuable, but I don't think we = should discriminate against "English as a native and only language&quo= t; speakers=C2=A0 - it's our working language.</div><div><br></div><div= >Lastly, while I don't have time to gather the statistics about the cur= rent and past candidates, I know that I would've qualified=C2=A0when I = first ran - as a former member of the Russian Wikipedia ArbCom and a former= member of the Funds Dissemination Committee - note that I've never bee= n on a board of an affiliate.</div><div><br></div><div>And lastly, I hope t= hat the current criteria will encourage people to serve on the global commi= ttees=C2=A0such as AffCom, U4C etc, and people who serve on them to partici= pate in the Board elections as candidates - we need all the talent we can g= et.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"= ><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 18, 2026 at 1:06=E2=80= =AFPM Samuel Klein via Wikimedia-l <<a href=3D"mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.= wikimedia.org" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferre= r" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></di= v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde= r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks= so much Margo. The base requirements seem good.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br></div>= <div>The=C2=A0Categories of Governance or Community Experience seem to tren= d mostly towards bureacratic experience, not related to experience with kno= wledge work (like education or contribution), or outreach (like partnership= s or campaigns), or multilingualism (including translation and multinationa= l initiatives).=C2=A0 It also singles out incorporated affiliates with paid= staff over all other forms of community organizing and project work, as de= monstration of community experience;=C2=A0can you say more about that?=C2= =A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Have you analyzed which current and past= trustees / candidates would have fit these proposed criteria?=C2=A0 That m= ight be a useful appendix for the discussion.</div><div><br></div><div><div= >Sam</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di= r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 10:40=E2=80=AFPM Mar= go Lee via Wikimedia-l <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= g" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D= "_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquot= e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s= olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><span id=3D"m= _-5588007554162162186m_4469802901689131294m_-1712248802140932411m_377168657= 1495991901m_5237505477281012924m_8819966046611684905m_-2204210158207707008m= _-8125474672116490767m_6755650587874283774m_-8153248039563220981gmail-docs-= internal-guid-54b4c7fa-7fff-29c9-6c21-132282ddba3b"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D= "line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-fam= ily:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-var= iant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Hello everyone,</= span></p><br><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin= -bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);b= ackground-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;whi= te-space:pre-wrap">Following the 2025 elections, the Wikimedia Foundation B= oard of Trustees </span><a href=3D"https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wik= imedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/October_2025_update#c-LLosa_(WMF)-20251= 015213400-Additional_perspectives_on_current_and_future_board_selection_pro= cesses" style=3D"text-decoration:none" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer norefer= rer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-family:Ari= al,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;text-decorat= ion:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">committed</span= ></a><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);backgroun= d-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space= :pre-wrap"> to reviewing the selection process of new Trustees, soliciting = and receiving feedback and suggestions and proposing changes. The Board rec= eived extensive comments </span><a href=3D"https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/= Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Debrief" style=3D"text-decoration:none"= rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_= blank"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transpa= rent;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;= white-space:pre-wrap">posted on Meta</span></a><span style=3D"font-family:A= rial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:= normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">, which helped inform = this approach.</span></p><br><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margi= n-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-al= ign:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The Board has discussed the following go= als for reforms:=C2=A0</span></p><ul style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:= 0px"><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-s= erif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vert= ical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-heig= ht:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role=3D"presentation"><span style= =3D"background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baselin= e;white-space:pre-wrap">Clarity and consistency of the electoral process</s= pan></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Aria= l,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:nor= mal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"l= ine-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role=3D"presentation"><sp= an style=3D"background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align= :baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Clarity of roles and responsibilities</span= ></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,s= ans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal= ;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line= -height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role=3D"presentation"><span = style=3D"background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:ba= seline;white-space:pre-wrap">Transparent communications and timeline</span>= </p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sa= ns-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;= vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-= height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role=3D"presentation"><span s= tyle=3D"background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:bas= eline;white-space:pre-wrap">A slate of candidates who strengthen the board = through the experience they bring</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"l= ist-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);backgroun= d-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space= :pre-wrap"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-b= ottom:0pt" role=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"background-color:transparen= t;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Reduced= need for shortlisting</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-t= ype:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:tra= nsparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">= <p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" = role=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"background-color:transparent;font-vari= ant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Strong voter parti= cipation</span></p></li></ul><br><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;m= argin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-seri= f;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertica= l-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The Board is now ready to publish it= s draft eligibility requirements for feedback from the community. The requi= rements are more specific and detailed than in years past, to both inform t= he community of what the Board needs and to create multiple pathways to the= Board for Wikimedians. They are also presented as requirements for candida= tes, not desirable qualities.</span></p><br><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-he= ight:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Aria= l,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:nor= mal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The Board is also emphasi= sing the need for previous governance experience, including these key eleme= nts of experience:</span></p><ul style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"= ><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif= ;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical= -align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1= .38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"= background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;wh= ite-space:pre-wrap">Understanding the role of oversight vs. governance vs. = management</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;fon= t-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;fon= t-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir=3D"lt= r" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role=3D"pres= entation"><span style=3D"background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;v= ertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Understanding </span><a href= =3D"https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Legal_and_Fiduciary_Duties_f= or_Wikimedia_Foundation_Trustees_Public_Version.pdf" style=3D"text-decorati= on:none" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" tar= get=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"background-color:transparent;font-variant:nor= mal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"= >Fiduciary Duties</span></a></p></li></ul><ul style=3D"margin-top:0px;margi= n-bottom:0px"><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Ari= al,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:no= rmal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"= line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role=3D"presentation"><s= pan style=3D"background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-alig= n:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Understanding the "Group Dynamics&quo= t; of a board or committee (and other collective decision-making bodies): w= orking well with others to ask probing questions, voice different views and= contribute to informed decisions for the good of the whole, not an individ= ual agenda</span></p></li></ul><br><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38= ;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-se= rif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;verti= cal-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The Board is now looking for speci= fic feedback on the </span><a href=3D"https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Speci= al:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2027/Proposed_eligibility_crit= eria" style=3D"text-decoration:none" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferre= r noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial= ,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;text-decoratio= n:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">proposed eligibil= ity criteria</span></a><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rg= b(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:ba= seline;white-space:pre-wrap">.</span></p><br><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-h= eight:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Ari= al,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:no= rmal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Regards,</span></p><p di= r=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span= style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:tr= ansparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"= >The Board Governance Committee=C2=A0</span></p><br><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D= "line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-fam= ily:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-sty= le:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"= >Margo Lee on behalf of the Governance Committee</span></p><br></span></div= ><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><table st= yle=3D"font-size:14px;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;border-wid= th:medium;border-style:none;border-color:currentcolor"><tbody><tr><td style= =3D"padding:5pt"></td><td style=3D"vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;font-size= :9pt;line-height:1.38;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Margo Lee</b>=C2=A0(= she/her)<br><span style=3D"font-size:8pt">Deputy Chief of Staff</span><br><= a href=3D"https://wikimediafoundation.org/" title=3D"foundationsite:" style= 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