Re: WMF executives decision not to voluntarily recognize the union
Jimmy Wales via Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> Wed, 29 Jul 2026 16:40:57 +0000 (UTC)
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>But Mike if we already have a "supermajority of the workers already did=
vote by signing a card"... why is additional process required for processe=
s sake? How is >this not a waste of time, energy, and money to result at an=
already clear outcome?
Hi James, this was a question that I had as well, and so I looked into it a=
nd thought about it.=C2=A0 One of the problems with the process so far is t=
hat it was
not secret and we have heard from some staff members that they felt pressur=
ed because the organizers would know how they decided.=C2=A0 That isn't a g=
reat process and it goes against our movement's values quite badly to have =
people in a situation where they are pressured into something one way or th=
e other.
It's pretty easy to see the problem if we imagine it in the other direction=
- imagine some company asking staff to sign pledge cards not to join a uni=
on, and keeping track of who did or didn't in order to put pressure on thos=
e who didn't.=C2=A0 Gross.=C2=A0 It doesn't make it better for it to be the=
other way around in my own personal view.
I want a process where staff are safe to deliberate in the privacy of their=
own minds and make the decision based on all the available evidence that m=
akes the most sense to them.=C2=A0 So I don't think insisting on a proper v=
ote is process for the sake of process and I say that with my own estimate =
that the staff will vote to support unionization.=C2=A0 I think we'll be in=
a better place if it's really clear - a clean and clear choice with no cha=
nce of pressure.
In terms of time, energy, and money - I don't think it should take very lon=
g and again speaking only for myself I hope we get it done as quickly and e=
fficiently as we can and I hope that everyone - staff, management, board, a=
nd community can come together to celebrate the outcome.=C2=A0 I know I wil=
l.
--Jimbo =20
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<div>>But Mike if we already have a "supermajority of th=
e workers already did vote by signing a card"... why is additional process =
required for processes sake? How is >this not a waste of time, energy, a=
nd money to result at an already clear outcome?</div><div><div id=3D"ydpc38=
8f99yiv5831847797"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi James, this was a question that I had as =
well, and so I looked into it and thought about it. One of the proble=
ms with the process so far is that it was<br>not secret and we have heard f=
rom some staff members that they felt pressured because the organizers woul=
d know how they decided. That isn't a great process and it goes again=
st our movement's values quite badly to have people in a situation where th=
ey are pressured into something one way or the other.<br><br>It's pretty ea=
sy to see the problem if we imagine it in the other direction - imagine som=
e company asking staff to sign pledge cards not to join a union, and keepin=
g track of who did or didn't in order to put pressure on those who didn't.&=
nbsp; Gross. It doesn't make it better for it to be the other way aro=
und in my own personal view.<br><br>I want a process where staff are safe t=
o deliberate in the privacy of their own minds and make the decision based =
on all the available evidence that makes the most sense to them. So I=
don't think insisting on a proper vote is process for the sake of process =
and I say that with my own estimate that the staff will vote to support uni=
onization. I think we'll be in a better place if it's really clear - =
a clean and clear choice with no chance of pressure.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">In t=
erms of time, energy, and money - I don't think it should take very long an=
d again speaking only for myself I hope we get it done as quickly and effic=
iently as we can and I hope that everyone - staff, management, board, and c=
ommunity can come together to celebrate the outcome. I know I will.</=
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