Re: WMF executives decision not to voluntarily recognize the union
Alex Stinson via Wikimedia-l <[email protected]>
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Dear Greg, I appreciate you so much! You are definitely one of the long-time colleagues at Wikimedia that I really respect. I can also see where this response reflects your many years of non-profit communication strategy, including advising senior leadership and the board over the years at the Foundation. I also think it's really important for all affected workers to have a chance to speak up. So continue talking, this is important! Unions and their protection are built on broad and sometimes conflictual consensus making processes. But ... and after having talked to several community members, and several of your colleagues, my ex colleagues.... the conversation has moved from factual misreading and misrepresentation of the card check process towards a larger concern. On the factual matter: there was a semi-secret voting process through two separate card check sign up drives only visible to a handful of union facilitators, one by WWU, and the second of which was facilitated by the national union CWA. Both were legal ways to form a union in the United States. CWA offered WMF an option for a third party arbitrator to check the validity of the cards and move the process forward. Notably, at any time, any covered staff could also, for example, dispute their existing cards and remove them from the pool of staff supporting a Union. Moreover, in such a process, WMF’s lawyers could be disputing the Union formation in private. I find it extremely hard to believe that over 20% of your US colleagues misread the existing forms twice (well documented on wiki now), but that is the responsibility of an arbitrator and lawyers to figure out. Instead WMF leadership made a choice: to air all of its bad faith interpretations in public, while justifying sending the petition to an NLRB election process under a Trump-controlled, pro-employer NLRB administration. Because the NLRB election is handled by mail, this election also imposes a physical presence restriction on staff movement for over a month, in order for them to participate in their labor rights where normally they would have flexibility of being remote staff in the US (I documented this here <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wiki_Workers_United/Claims_and_responses#Claim:_The_card_check_and_voluntary_recognition_method_of_unionization_is_unusual.> ) The reason the conversation has sprawled: is that it touches on a larger pattern of WMF leadership avoiding acknowledgement of the role of labor in the movement. To be clear, the only reason Wikimedia works is not the software, the movement's fundraising capacity, or leadership and board decisions, but an elaborate self-organizing structure of different kinds of labor in a complex social ecosystem. The last 6 months of decisions have seeded labor conflicts across the movement: - The labor of donors -- Our small donors are not just “giving money” but are donating a chunk of their compensation to our cause (many of whom are in low income countries, or students or retirees). They are investing their labor in our labor. Some donors are withdrawing their contributions based on these decisions. - The labor of staff, who are forming a union, as Jake points out, not because they want to fight the organization, but rather want to stay at the organization in a healthy and productive way <https://medium.com/regarding-wikipedia/how-the-wikimedia-foundations-union-busting-is-textbook-9b5245f6a736>. The Union opened the process to be non confrontational, and the Foundation is choosing legal advice designed to be confrontational (and defending that choice in public). - The labor of editors, whose adhoc workflows often address critical legal compliance and content quality concerns, and need attention from WMF labor like community tech. - The labor of affiliates, who are sometimes ineffective due to poor programmatic support, but typically operate as surprisingly lean and impactful organizations advancing our mission. The recent proposed changes to Foundation’s funding framework were done without prior consultation with its main stakeholders. - The labor of committees: PTAC, Affcom and GRDC were sidestepped during the recent Community Tech and affiliate funding proposed changes. At the same time, the board is proposing a restrictive measure to make their committee process less inclusive of all the kinds of labor involved in the movement. This is without taking into account the dozens of other committees run on volunteer labor to solve Foundation priorities. Our values, how we make collective decisions, and the value we offer to the world is based on coordinating across a complex social system, of the weirdest, most wonderful, and most detail oriented group of humans on the internet. We are supposed to be fighting for knowledge to be human <https://wikimediafoundation.org/knowledge-is-human/>, instead we are fighting ourselves. This is a choice: foundation leadership has consistently chosen to air dirty laundry by defending decisions that clearly diverge from movement values with increasingly corporate-style defenses that doubt workers' contributions and cherry pick some of the “grossest” (echoing Jimmy) assumptions we have about each other. It's not a surprise it's become a sprawling conversation, and for better or worse a persistent and exhaustive documentary project of epic proportion in our movement (i.e., the second longest editing community petition!). Wikipedians, when given poor and clearly evasive communications, do what they do best: extensive documentation. Of course this is in a way that US labor journalism typically does not have enough capacity to do (for example, the press documentation of the labor relations for the International Rescue Committee Union’s experience <https://ircworkersunite.org/ircwu-in-the-media/>) All of this could have been a silent, closed room conflict in a legally and confidentiality protected arbitration that didn’t invite the editing community to the conflict. I am going to place here a document created at the heart of one of our previous movement crises on what would be a good approach to a mistake-filled moment like this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/So_you%27ve_made_a_mistake_and_it%27s_public... I also am extremely optimistic that everyone involved can choose how to work better to support our collective labor. I don’t think there are many malicious intentions in this conversation, but the documented choices we have seen so far reveal many bad assumptions. On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 11:27 AM Gregory Varnum via Wikimedia-l < [email protected]> wrote: > I am one of the staff eligible to vote, and someone who has worked > with/for labor movement in all nonprofits jobs over ~15 yrs prior to > joining the Foundation ~11 years ago. So I am very much on the record over > +25 yrs as supporting unions, and have considerable training on monitoring > anti-union tactics, etc. > > > I do not feel this is the place for staff to speak about our personal > opinions on the upcoming vote - and I'm aware many do not feel comfortable > discussing this matter in such a public debate channel. However, I do feel > compelled to speak up on an assumption presumably being made in part on my > behalf about the process. > > > It was always my understanding - and that of other colleagues I have > spoken with over the past few months on this topic - that there would be a > vote. The pitch to me about the cards - in part - was about the opportunity > for a vote - not immediate recognition. I was explicitly told the vote > would be a chance to change my mind later if I desired, and that signing a > card was necessary to get answers from the organizers to questions. I know > people who did not sign cards and would like the chance to show their > support. I also know staff who signed cards - but are not yet sure how they > intend to vote and want this opportunity to learn more. > > > I just wanted to point out that at least to my knowledge - a fair number > of staff (probably not all - but certainly myself included) did not think > the cards would mean no vote would happen - or that they were fully > endorsing unionization (so much as supporting the discussion happening > officially). I cannot speak for every conversation that happened - but > again, I was told multiple times by multiple people that the ultimate goal > for the cards was to get a vote. Having helped establish dozens of US-based > unions during my past work - this all feels pretty routine to me. Even > within nonprofit organizations funded by the labor movement, I have not > personally experienced a US-based unionization without a vote conducted by > the US National Labor Relations Board (although no doubt others have and > many examples exist - again - can only speak to my experience). > > > I would encourage people to allow this process to play out before judging > things too much. If the staff votes to unionize and the Foundation resists > - that is a different discussion. But we are not there yet, and a NLRB > overseen and legally prescribed vote seems a reasonable way to safeguard > staff’s desired outcome. > > > I think allowing for people directly impacted (like me) to learn more and > then engaging in a rather traditional consensus making process in this type > of situation to proceed as legally outlined is absolutely within our > movement values. As one of those people - I respectfully request that you > support my desire and legal right to vote. > > > -greg > > > PS. FWIW - I have not discussed this email with bosses/leadership at the > org - and am not in any way trying to speak on behalf of others or any > entities involved. I did speak with some other eligible voters to make sure > my impressions were not unique - and each encouraged me to send this - but > again, speaking only for myself. :) > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 4:27 AM Hannah Clover via Wikimedia-l < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Jake has covered this again: >> https://medium.com/regarding-wikipedia/lies-damned-lies-and-union-busting-statements-42254598b6e9 >> >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2026, 10:38 p.m. Hannah Clover < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> May I also point out the wonderfully detailed coverage on the French >>> Wikipedia: >>> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:RAW/2026-08-05/WWU >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2026, 7:53 p.m. James Heilman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> It is being brought up that the WMF has brought on the law firm >>>> Littler Mendelson <https://www.nlrb.gov/case/20-RC-391740> for this >>>> case, which has been noted to have a history of trying to avoid >>>> unionization for their corporate clients. >>>> >>>> For example this Wired piece says “When you hire Littler Mendelson, >>>> it’s an indication that you’re prepared to do whatever is necessary to >>>> defeat the union campaign,” says Logan. “That you’re prepared to play >>>> hardball. >>>> <https://www.wired.com/story/apples-union-busting-campaign-caused-a-bad-fallout/>” >>>> >>>> >>>> If the WMF just wants to make sure staff have the ability to decide >>>> independently, choosing this law firm may not have been the best choice. >>>> >>>> Do we have estimates on timelines and costs? Best >>>> James >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 12:04 PM James Heilman <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Jimbo, that makes complete sense and also based on that agree a >>>>> secret vote is best :-) >>>>> >>>>> J >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 5:41 PM Jimmy Wales <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >But Mike if we already have a "supermajority of the workers already >>>>>> did vote by signing a card"... why is additional process required for >>>>>> processes sake? How is >this not a waste of time, energy, and money to >>>>>> result at an already clear outcome? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi James, this was a question that I had as well, and so I looked >>>>>> into it and thought about it. One of the problems with the process so far >>>>>> is that it was >>>>>> not secret and we have heard from some staff members that they felt >>>>>> pressured because the organizers would know how they decided. That isn't a >>>>>> great process and it goes against our movement's values quite badly to have >>>>>> people in a situation where they are pressured into something one way or >>>>>> the other. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's pretty easy to see the problem if we imagine it in the other >>>>>> direction - imagine some company asking staff to sign pledge cards not to >>>>>> join a union, and keeping track of who did or didn't in order to put >>>>>> pressure on those who didn't. Gross. It doesn't make it better for it to >>>>>> be the other way around in my own personal view. >>>>>> >>>>>> I want a process where staff are safe to deliberate in the privacy of >>>>>> their own minds and make the decision based on all the available evidence >>>>>> that makes the most sense to them. So I don't think insisting on a proper >>>>>> vote is process for the sake of process and I say that with my own estimate >>>>>> that the staff will vote to support unionization. I think we'll be in a >>>>>> better place if it's really clear - a clean and clear choice with no chance >>>>>> of pressure. >>>>>> >>>>>> In terms of time, energy, and money - I don't think it should take >>>>>> very long and again speaking only for myself I hope we get it done as >>>>>> quickly and efficiently as we can and I hope that everyone - staff, >>>>>> management, board, and community can come together to celebrate the >>>>>> outcome. I know I will. >>>>>> >>>>>> --Jimbo >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> James Heilman >>>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> James Heilman >>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/NONO7BI7IGNIX43YUOOXBU4B67GOEYI6/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/YACUSZR7UWBQYTDLSYLKZFTVJOKO523K/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/ULKZGQUSH2C7M35DJGYRJ4VC7GGVFAUM/ To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org