Re: [Foundation-l] Rethinking brands

The essential challenge is to get end product into the K-12 education  
channel, in a way that 1) meshes with the requirements set by state  
education departments to strictly adhere to curriculum frameworks; 2)  
devise effective means to inform the established K-12 education  
community that #1 has been completed (on a subject by subject basis);  
and, 3) establish a means to distribution of materials *in print*  
that is easy to access.

Content is decidedly _not_ the problem. The real problems are  
logistics and effective project management toward a goal of  
completing the above,

Cheers,
Sanford

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On May 11, 2007, at 10:28 AM, KH wrote:

> I was under the impression that wikibooks would also include  
> textbooks for
> k-12.  Normally, k-3 don't have traditional texts because many are  
> still
> learning to read.  Later, they read to learn.  So much of the  
> "textbook" is
> really worksheets, pictures, and planned lectures and activities.   
> Actually,
> a better word to use for k-3 is curriculum, not textbooks. But I've  
> read we
> are not supposed to do curriculum.
>
> Soooo, I'm not sure what wikibooks really is.  Here is where I got  
> my info:
>
> http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/003069.shtml
>
> Although dated 8/05, it seems Mr. Wales had a definite vision:
>
> "The second thing that will be free is a complete curriculum (in all
> languages) from Kindergarten through the University level. There  
> are several
> projects underway to make this a reality, including our own Wikibooks
> project, but of course this is a much bigger job than the  
> encyclopedia, and
> it will take much longer."
>
> Curriculum, by definition, is a package.  It can include textbooks but
> certain goes beyond that to worksheets, teacher planning,  
> activities, etc.
> I would love to redo the SRA Direct Instruction curriculum in  
> wikibooks so
> that parents AND teachers have an option for scientificially based
> curriculum.  But according to new definitions, I'm not sure  
> wikibooks is an
> appropriate place.  Under the old definition from the website  
> listed above,
> it is.
>
>
> -Kathy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Florence Devouard wrote:
>> I, for one, think it is great to work on better defining the mission
>> of Wikibooks. I have one question though, do you know if the
>> definition worked upon is generally shared with other wikibooks  
>> people
>> ? Are they other wikibooks that have worked on such a definition, and
>> where the outcome differs widely from yours ?
>>
>> ant
>
> At last count 18 people supported it and 7 people objected to it.  
> As others
> have already said, some disagree on limiting English Wikibooks to just
> textbooks, how much emphases on textbooks be be given, whether or  
> not it
> should be a policy or guideline and some have concerns on the  
> clarity of the
> proposal.
>
> There is quite a difference from English Wikibooks' current version  
> and the
> German version. Google's German to English translation of the German
> Wikibooks version:
> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F% 
> 2Fde.wikibooks.org%2Fwiki
> %2FHilfe%3AWas_Wikibooks_ist&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
>
> There have been previous proposals on English Wikibooks to redefine  
> the
> current policy as well, before they were merged together:
> http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php? 
> title=Wikibooks:What_is_Wikibooks/Unstab
> le&oldid=600961
> http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php? 
> title=Wikibooks:What_is_Wikibooks/Unstab
> le&oldid=665481
> http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php? 
> title=Wikibooks:What_is_Wikibooks/Unstab
> le&oldid=665488
>
> that AFAIK, were abandoned before ever getting to the point of  
> seeking input
> from the community to accept or reject them.
>
> --darklama
>
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