Re: Wikibook User Arbitration

Thanks for the information, Dragontamer!


--- percy tiglao <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 1/4/07, Robert Scott Horning
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I have lothed the day that this would be
> necessary, but Wikibooks has
> > now gone to a formal user arbitration situation.
> >
> > For details, see:
> >
> >
>
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Arbitration/Panic2k4_vs._SBJohnny
> >
> > I have agreeed to step in here in terms of trying
> to resolve this
> > situation.  Panic hasn't been doing blatant
> vandalism, but he has been
> > making it tough (apparently) to edit the C++
> Programming Wikibook and
> > has made a few enemies and a few others who are
> upset over his editorial
> > style.
> >
> > In an attempt to formalize this discussion and try
> to bring some order
> > here, and to keep this from spilling into areas
> like policy pages to
> > legislate the behavior of Panic out of existance,
> this has really turned
> > into a judicial situation instead.  Both that, and
> this situation is
> > quickly approaching the level of blatant wheel
> warring, and I want to
> > nip that right away to keep it from happening.
> >
> > Yes, this is perhaps a little more complicated
> than the Wikipedia
> > arbitration.  OK, that is intentional in this
> situation, as I would like
> > to set this up in such a way that you don't want
> to go through this meat
> > grinder if at all possible.  Arbitration is
> clearly the last and final
> > resort beyond trying to pull in people from
> outside of the project to
> > make very arbitrary decisions based on very
> incomplete information.  I
> > certainly don't want to see Jimbo, Anthere, or
> Erik having to get
> > involved here being pressured to act when they
> won't know what is going
> > on in the first place.  I know I have had to ask
> around a bit and work
> > hard to even see if there is a case to be made
> here at all.
> >
> > It is my hope that these arbitration/mediation
> cases are very, very
> > rare.  I'm trying hard to stay objective here as
> well, and am leaving
> > most of what is said to the discussion pages
> above.
> >
> > Once all of this has been more or less resolved, I
> hope that we can come
> > up with the formal arbitration guidelines that
> have been discussed now
> > for more than a year on Wikibooks.  I guess that
> until a situation like
> > this came up, there wasn't a percieved need to get
> this put together.
> 
> *Sigh* it was only a matter of time. Get a bunch of
> people working
> together, and people will suddenly not want to work
> together for
> whatever reason :-/
> 
> I have not looked at the current issue (in fact,
> this is the first
> time I have heard of it. But I feel that in this
> specific case,
> community consensus may be a bad thing. Eventually,
> there may be
> groups of users vs other groups of users. Maybe
> Jimbo or some other
> person would have to step in there.
> 
> Oy, this is a whole new can-o-worms in Wikibooks
> policy...
> 
> --Dragontamer
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