Re: Finding french-german translations - Newbie question

Thank you Karl,
 
I also found out about that other project, but your query is very helpful for me.
 
One major difference between the two seems to me that, as I have seen in papers but to be confirmed, the Dbnary version don't handle yet links to other datasets (eventhough they talk about LLOD), whereas DBPedia-wiktionary does have links to DBPedia at least.
 
Any other information would be appreciated, as you said.
Thanks
Fabian


>>> On 2014-11-30 at 12:21 PM, in message <CAJnUJyiHkAkJRb=WOWhqbA3SXUHFPZtc1_rv1JnRfUTSshZVuA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>, Karl Bartel <[email protected]> wrote:

The results on dbnary (http://kaiko.getalp.org/sparql) look better for
this case:

PREFIX dbnary: <http://kaiko.getalp.org/dbnary#>
PREFIX eng: <http://kaiko.getalp.org/dbnary/eng/>
PREFIX lexvo: <http://lexvo.org/id/iso639-3/>
PREFIX lemon: <http://www.lemon-model.net/lemon#>

SELECT DISTINCT ?def_value ?written_trans
WHERE {
  ?lexform lemon:writtenRep "Suisse"@fr .
  ?lexentry lemon:canonicalForm ?lexform ;
		    lemon:sense ?sense .
  ?sense lemon:definition ?def .
  ?def lemon:value ?def_value
  OPTIONAL {
    ?trans dbnary:isTranslationOf ?lexentry ;
		   dbnary:targetLanguage lexvo:deu ;
		   dbnary:writtenForm ?written_trans .
  }
}

Any comments on the differences between dbnary and dbpedia-wiktionary
are welcome. It's quite time consuming to judge the projects as an
outsider.

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Fabian Cretton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> And first of all thank you for that great news (to me) of an RDF version of wiktionary.
>
> For my first trials, I am willing to retrieve translations of words between French and German.
> I did manage to get "random" translations following the SPARQL examples.
>
> But then I tried a more specific search to find translation of Suisse (Switzerland in english), and couldn't find the translation.
> I then simplified the query to:
>	 ?swordRes rdfs:label "Suisse"@fr .
>    optional{?swordRes terms:hasTranslation ?twordRes }.
>
> with no result for ?twordRes.
>
> However, I can see many translations on this original page:
> http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Suisse
>
> And then this also happened with other words I tried, as Valais (a swiss canton).
> Maybe I am not familiar enough yet with the ontology ?
>
> By the way, I can't access: http://wiktionary.dbpedia.org/page/dog which gives me:
> Execution of "/DAV/VAD/dbpedia/description.vsp" failed.SQL Error: 37000 SQ074: Line 272: syntax error at ')' before 'order'
> thank you for your help
> Fabian
>
>
>
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