Re: system-java16-dev on OSX 10.10

> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:13, Alexander Hansen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Sean Lake <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 6:55, Alexander Hansen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 15, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Sean Lake <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, fixed it. Installed Oracle’s Java.
>>>> 
>>>> Sean
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2014, at 17:52, Sean Lake <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m getting multiple packages, especially gnucash2, complaining about the lack of system-java16-dev on my new mac. I’ve installed java_for_os_x_2013005_dp__11m4609.dmg, but it doesn’t seem to have rectified the problem. Running fink apropos java, I get:
>>>>> i      system-java     1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 1.6.0]
>>>>> i      system-java16   1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 1.6.0]
>>>>>     system-java16-dev       1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 1.6.0 development headers]
>>>>> 
>>>>> What do I need to install to get that last package?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Sean
>>>>> 
>>>>> sudo fink install gnucash2
>>>>> Password:
>>>>> Information about 10219 packages read in 0 seconds.
>>>>> Can't resolve dependency "system-java-dev" for package "bison-legacy-2.7.1-1"
>>>>> (no matching packages/versions found)
>>>>> Exiting with failure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> fink --version
>>>>> Package manager version: 0.38.2
>>>>> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Sat Nov 15 14:55:28 2014, 10.10, x86_64
>>>>> Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the confusion here.  We have two versions of the availability code for virtual packages;
>>> 
>>> 1)  The package shows up in the list as not installed if it isn’t detected.
>>> 2)  The package doesn’t show up in the list at all if it isn’t detected.
>>> 
>>> I prefer 2) to be used for virtual packages which are impossible to install on certain OS versions, and 1) for packages which are always possible to satisfy.   We might want to switch system-java-dev over to 1).  Option 1) has fink go through an install procedure and then gives a more verbose error message, so it seems more appropriate here.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
>>> Fink User Liaison
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, but I don’t know if that would address the issue I was having. 
>> 
>> In this particular case, installing Apple’s latest Java didn’t satisfy the requirement for system-java16-dev. That tells me that either the detection in system-java16-dev is busted, or Apple’s Java is broken in a way that makes it unable to fulfill that need. If it is the latter case, it would be helpful if the instructions on 10.10 were updated to specify Oracle’s Java is needed.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> Sean
> 
> The detection system worked just fine for me when last I checked it (a couple of weeks ago).
> 
> When you say “Apple’s latest java”, does that mean the legacy SDK?  http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572 
> Your package list suggests not.
> 
> What java is needed depends on the package.  Some packages just want _a_ Java, and some won’t build using Oracle’s.  Other older packagers may want system-java16 because at the time it was the newest option.
> -- 
> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
> Fink User Liaison
> 

I installed the files available from Apple’s developer site in the dmg file named: java_for_os_x_2013005_dp__11m4609.dmg . It was the newest Java installer Apple had listed on developer.apple.com’s developer member site. That file you linked is newer (2013–005 vs 2014-001), so I’ll install it. Regardless, all of the packages I installed seemed happy with the Oracle install I did.

Thanks,

Sean
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